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Baldur's Gate 3
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Baldur’s Gate 3 is a story-rich, party-based RPG set in the universe of Dungeons & Dragons, where your choices shape a tale of fellowship and betrayal, survival and sacrifice, and the lure of absolute power. (Website)
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Skyrim is a triple A RPG. I haven't made one change to my argument. My argument is not even my argument. It's the "Standing on the shoulders of giants" metaphor. If you like what you see today, then you have to give credit to the works that impacted the current environment.
I won’t because it’s BS
BG3 has nothing to do with Skyrim. The gameplay has nothing to do with it. The story has nothing to do with it either. BG3 exists because of BG1 and BG2. You would know that if you’ve ever played one of those game. But you didn’t because you are to young to know shit. As a matter of fact, every Larian’s game exists because of Baldur’s gate. The world didn’t begin the day you grab your first controller you know?
Now, if we stop talking about gameplay and talk about money like you did, BG3 never had to wait for Skyrim to be a success, as there were tremendously successful games before Skyrim already.
Keep repeating yourself if you like, it won’t change how wrong you are.
Why is BG3 not BioWare if it evolved on its own merits? You don't even have a point you're trying to make. You just want to tell me that I'm wrong. In order for me to be wrong, one of the most influential games ever would have to have zero influence on the development, funding, or reception of Baldur's Gate 3. You don't have any argument because I literally can't be wrong about it.
If you think that no one in the 6 years of development compared the game to Skyrim in any way whatsoever or any game inspired by Skyrim, then you have an opinion so dumb that it's not worth talking to you.
Skyrim is not the most influential game ever… you’re timeline is broken by your own ignorance.
I don’t have « a point to make » for someone who’s just spitting nonsense.
You keep repeating the same BS.
I gave you facts you keep ignoring.
I gave you historical references that you keep ignoring too.
Not arguments. Facts.
Now live in a fantasy if you want. Why should I care?
You admitted that you don't have a point. Lol. I'm going to go play a rogue/fighter/wizard and fight dragons and have my choices impact the outcome and be a dragonborn and have mods.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Those are things in both games, numb nuts.
Or what about the mother figure in the dark cult of assassins?
Do you really think Skyrim invented the trope of the Mother figure?
Are you that much illiterate?
For fuck sake, open a damn book.
I thought you said the only thing that influenced BG3 was BG1 and BG2. Now I have to read books?
Play BG1 and BG2 if you can't read...
At this point I'm expecting you to tell me that BG3 copied Skyrim because there are Elves and Dwarfs and Dragons in both of them...
You do realize that the Mother figure in both Skyrim and Baldur's Gate is a representation of Lilith, first wife of Adam and mother of all demons right? Which is a figure at least as old as the fucking Old Testament? Right? Have you ever heard about Dante's Hell?
Now, do you realize how ignorant you look like right now?
I'll bite. Show me the Old Testament RPG where a dead mother figure is standing in a coffin in an assassin cult, and I'll concede. Here's your chance.
I just can’t count how many movies since the very fucking 1900´s got that very fucking scene.
How creative it would be if someone put that scene in an RPG, wouldn’t it? Like « Radio on the Internet » if you can get that joke.
Well, maybe you should start with fucking Diablo 1 then.
Don’t forget to wash your teeth before going to sleep kiddo.
So you can't name one. Got it. Lol
Look, kiddo, let me pontificate for a minute.
You seem like a decent person. A lefty who loves cats? Definitely my jam. But man, you’re just terrible at arguments.
You can’t just spit opinions and expect people with actual knowledge to agree with you.
I get it, you love Skyrim and you want to think it’s a genius piece of art which invented everything. But it’s simply not true. It’s a just a rewriting of very old stories. Like almost every RPGs to be honest - and the books LOTR, and the books GOT, and everything Fantasy really - but that’s not the point.
I simply hope you don’t make political arguments the way you led that conversation, because damn that was bad.
I didn't even play Skyrim until 2020. I think it's like a B-. You have no idea where I'm coming from opinion wise. I didn't say an opinion. I'm saying that BG3 was influenced by Skyrim. That's all I've tried to say this whole time.
This is legitimately not an opinion that I've tried to convey. It's insane to me that you think the impact is 0.00000%. It's not a coherent thought. It's like saying my uncle didn't have any impact on me because my dad is older than he is.
I'm not arguing an opinion. I am not mad at this or debating a position. I'm stating a fact and am being told it's not a fact. I'm shocked that you don't understand what I'm trying to say. If you think I'm arguing, then you must not understand what I'm trying to say.
If you are upset by what I'm saying, then I am genuinely concerned. I don't know what part of what I'm saying can be so wrong that you feel the best to argue. This is surreal to me. Can you acknowledge what I'm trying to say?
My entire statement is "Skyrim had a non-zero impact on Baldur's Gate 3". Do you understand that is what I'm saying?
Not one instance then? Huh. I guess you aren't right.
LMAO
Try opening your eyes wider for a sec?
Or maybe you’re just so unbelievably stupid you don’t even know what the Old Testament is ? Gotta admit « Old Testament RPG » is a fun way to talk about the Bible.