At best you're ignorant and at worst your intentionally lying because you'd rather people died than you had to actually prove you were a responsible gun owner. Either way, your "gut feelings" about suicide are demonstrably wrong.

Means reduction is a massive part of suicide prevention, at both a social and personal level. It's why they take away knives but not spoons, despite a determined enough person being able to kill themselves with basically anything, even gravity.

And do you know how many people who survive a suicide attempt go on to die by suicide? 1 in 10. Do you know how many people survive suicide attempts with guns? Basically 0.

Even your "it's a mental health problem" excuse is bullshit.

I know the motivation is to demand something impossible is done before you will even consider gun control -- in this case, accessible mental healthcare for every man, woman and child in America that can instantly cure them of complex problems far beyond even the most cutting edge medical science, so completely that they will never relapse for even a minute, delivered within a budget of $0.

But do you know what you're actually doing? Admitting that the American public are simply not healthy enough for such permissive gun laws to be safe.

So how about we just take your guns away and when you've finished building that impossible mental healthcare network, you can have them back.