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So I recently got into this community and as Winter is slowly approaching I am looking to buy and keep following items for quite some time:

  • a jacket: should keep me warm enough to around -5°C but as I cycle my commute should keep be too warm on its own, it does rain a lot (snows less often) so that should be kept in mind as well

  • a pair of shoes that fit the same criteria mentioned for the jacket.

Also, my budget for both items is not too high (~100€) per product.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Layers are the way to go. You can use the same rain jacket year round as your shell.

For the jacket get a good (NOT just DWR) rain jacket (I use a Helly Hansen 2.5 jacket). Helly Hansen, Outdoor Research, Patagonia, etc are all good options. Sailing companies typically make good stuff, pay attention to the millimeter waterproof rating. The 2.5 layer fabric is a nice blend of breathability, packability, and waterproofness imo since I don't want to be sweating inside the jacket. If you happen to work as a first responder, outdoor professional, military, etc most of these high end outdoor gear companies have a "pro" program you can register for and receive 50% off your purchases.

Underneath that, as it gets colder layer whatever you already own for an insulation layer (polyfill puffer, wool sweater, stanfields, etc), I would avoid down fill in this case just in case you do ever soak through your jacket since it will lose its insulation capacity when wet.

For shoes I don't really have a good recommendation since I just use waterproof socks and wear whatever shoes I feel like.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I did that last year but found my Vaude rain jacket to keep too much warmth inside and have me sweating like crazy. I might go with the Patagonia Nano Air Hoody since it sounds like a nice fit, just need to find it used somewhere, since I'm a student xd

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Sorry for the late reply. Used can be a great option if you find stuff in good shape. Ya, for your use where you're finding it sweaty doing an activity like biking or hiking where you will generate heat, I cant recommend the 2.5 layer/3 layer fabrics enough from whatever proper sailing or outdoor company you like. There's always a trade off in moisture resistance vs breathability and when you are generating heat you need to be further towards the breathability side of the scale which is where these fabrics shine. Will they last as long as a heavy non-breathable jacket with 100%PVC bonded to 400g nylon? No. But as you've discovered having a jacket that lasts a long time doesn't do you much good if you end up soaked from sweating in it all the time.