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Reversing the Roles
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this post was submitted on 15 Jun 2023
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First off, please look at a calendar and check what century we are in. If you can't recognize current atrocities, then you have no business in discussing past injustices.
You are comparing a US state, US Territory works on voting on statehood, and a US detention center that is state of the art compared to current Russian Filtration/Concentration camps.
Nothing you mentioned compares to this stuff at the moment. We can differ and that is that. I'm not going to downplay the current atrocities, so you feel better about having bad politics that don't acknowledge human suffering.
Enjoy your whataboutism & but America Bad insanity with someone else.
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Neither Puerto Rico or Hawai'i are Usonian states, they collonies occupied by the US and the simple fact that you think it's somehow a justification that the US does this but Russia is okay speaks tons about you.
But yeah, native Hawai'ians opinions are probably just some tankie or some shit to you and a white person needs to decide over them. You are the one doing whataboutism, the US has done shit for the last 200 years, multiple things that are still going on, that can be fix, solvable, that still have repercussions today, but some fucking country over there fucks up with some white Europeans and you lose your shit and everyone should focus their attention over there. Where are you when colonies that need liberation from white Europeans are in need? Where are you when people in West Asia are being massacred by your people? You are crying russia whatever because you can't own your own shit, you can just point over there and say whatabitism to the Global South.
Where are you when the CCP commit atrocities?, Where were you when the NK abuses human right?, Where were you when the soviet union send tank to hungary?, Where were you when the holodomor happend?, When were you when....
It's could go on and on and on.
So america bad when it's do shit, but if russia, china, and other do it. It's ok because it's america fault?.
You could critize US for it's imperialism but don't ignore when other countries do it too.
I try to fight against injustices in my own country, I don't accept the colonization of varios groups of people is good and then criticise other country for something bad they did. My country doesn't have colonies, though, I have just been fucked and robbed by your people, so it's a bit different. Maybe try and fight a bit more for Hawai'ians, Puerto Ricans, Latinos detained in ICE, and then see if you can fix something in the other end of the world. There are war crimes in your homeland you could actually fight against, not just complain about on the internet.