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Fuck Subscriptions

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Naming and shaming all "recurring spending models" where a one-time fee (or none at all) would be appropriate and logical.

Expect use of strong language.

Follow the basic rules of lemmy.world and common sense, and try to have fun if possible.

No flamewars or attacking other users, unless they're spineless corporate shills.

Note that not all subscriptions are awful. Supporting your favorite ~~camgirl~~ creator or Lemmy server on Patreon is fine. An airbag with subscription is irl Idiocracy-level dystopian bullshit.

New community rule: Shilling for cunty corporations, their subscriptions and other anti-customer practices may result in a 1-day ban. It's so you can think about what it's like when someone can randomly decide what you can and can't use, based on some arbitrary rules. Oh what, you didn't read this fine print? You should read what you're agreeing to.

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Privacy Guides

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Louis Rossman's YouTube channel

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Invidious

Nitter

Teddit

 

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/1962740

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Meanwhile, I'm laughing all the way to the bank with my Brother color laser.

Yes, the printer didn't have a low subsidized price up front. But now I can enjoy big toner cartridges that seem to last forever. And I can use all the knockoff ones I want. And the printer itself is bulletproof.

Huge fan of Brother!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

We actually moved to using Brother lasers after dealing with HP’s anti-consumer nonsense one too many times. They started to refuse to distribute offline capable installers for their drivers, so we returned the rest of our stock and swore them off.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Me too. Brother is a legend in these circles. Let's not jinx it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Brother keep threating to bring in recognition of only one toner cartridge

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes, the printer didn’t have a low subsidized price up front.

This is brought up in every thread about printers by vigilant Brother customers roaming the internet spreading the gospel. Is there is actually any proof that HP prices are subsidized? What's to stop them from having regular margins AND subscriptions (like everyone does these days) while Brother gets away with inflated margins claiming that others are selling below cost? This way both HP and Brother win.

I don't like HP either but I find ot a bit suspicious how every time Brother is mentioned its always with the remark about how their prices are totally ok.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't own a printer but to me does it really matter which way it's going?

HP printer: $50 Brother printer: $150 HP ink: $40 Brother ink: $20

If the brother is cheaper to run daily. Then eventually assuming the same lifespan for both the brother will be cheaper in the end.

I made up random number for my point I have no idea how much any of this actually costs so I could be way off base.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

You may have made up the numbers, but I have actually seen HP inkjets for 50€. I do not believe it is physically possible to produce and distribute them at that price without taking a loss - don't forget that that price includes the seller and every middleman's profit margin.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Just make sure you get the older Brothers, pre-subscription model.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, me too! I have a Brother laser printer that's been sailing along now for 10 years. Recycled toner cartridges work on it and cost me very little money. I can also use recycled drums when I have to replace the drum. I don't like my real brother very much, but my Brother laser printer is the bomb.