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submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

Speaking from the Oval Office starting at 8 p.m. ET, Biden made the case to Americans that it's vital to both global and U.S. national security to assist Israel as it responds to terror attacks by Hamas as well as to continue help for Ukraine as it fends off Russian invaders.

"Hamas and Putin represent different threads but they share this in common: They both want to completely annihilate a neighboring democracy," Biden said, referring to the extremists and Russia's president.

Biden said he knows the conflicts can seem distant and Americans might be asking why it's vital to U.S. security interests that Israel and Ukraine succeed.

"History has taught us that when terrorists don't pay a price for their terror, when dictators don't pay a price for their aggression, they cause more chaos and debt and more destruction," Biden said. "They keep going -- and the cost and the threats to America and the world keep rising."

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[-] [email protected] 56 points 11 months ago

I don't think it's as unpopular as you think it is. The internet skews perceptions.

[-] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago

Certainly not enough to stop supporting biden. I like what he has done so far. That being said I don't really want us involved although im sorta fine with the humanitarian efforts and warning other nations to not get involved. I mean its really mostly and iran thing but the token aid to israel sorta galls me. I don't think they really need it and I want us to see ukraine through.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

And that basically what it is coming to. US doesn't want to get involved, but doesn't want this to grow beyond Israel VS Hamas.

Having said that Iran and Russia are trying hard to escalate the conflict.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Im not sure how much Iran wants this escalated. Sure I think they want to use it for their own internal propaganda spins but I doubt they want to be active in terms of their own people.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Iran is Russia ally, hates Israel, want US to be occupied with this so it won't pay attention to them and doesn't want any agreement between Israel and Saudi Arabia.

Keep in mind Iran and Russia want to escalate this, but via proxy, they are of course not interested in direct fight.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

oh yeah. I could totally see proxy shit.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Me too… nothing has fundamentally changed, just like he promised his corporate donors

[-] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Democrat voters favor Palestine over Israel at a rate of 49% to 38% . Going against your voters' polling results is never a good thing when going into an election year

[-] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago
[-] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

More and more I realize I am not really American.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Wait but doesnt that mean they favour israel over palestine at a rate of 51% to 62%?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Oh wait i see now after clicking the link

Disregard above

[-] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

They’ll vote blue, no matter who

[-] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If the GOP could pull out of their southern strategy death spiral a lot of Biden voters would go red. Against all evidence many people still consider R to be better on their wallet.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago
[-] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The internet skews perceptions.

The same applies to the passage of many news cycles.

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