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[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Daily standups are fine, but they need to be like 10-15 minutes tops. And between 10am-1pm. Putting them at 9am sharp is just rude.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago

A few jobs back the director was having daily standups with the whole dev team for 60-90 minutes and sometimes longer.

The goal was to figure out why the project was behind schedule... yeah.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Keeping the meeting short was the whole point of them being "standups" (as opposed to "sit-downs") in the first place!

Frankly, even 10 minutes is excessive: it means either people are talking too much or your team is too big.

I'm fucking sick and tired of cargo-cult managers adopting the trappings of agile without understanding WTF they're for.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Ha! Yes.
For the first time, we are trying out a full scrum team in our company, with an external "scrum master" who really seems to know what he's doing. It's bloody amazing. Small team, the daily meeting has yet to exceed 10 minutes and is usually <5 minutes, the planning and refinement meeting keeps everyone in the loop. The rest of the time I can just be a happy code monkey :)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

My stand-ups are at 10 am (11 am for most of the team), last between 3 and 15 minutes depending on how many of the 7 of us show up and how much everyone has to say, then we all go back to what we're doing. My project manager and boss both care about the work that gets done rather than monitoring us to make sure we're working the entire time, and we actually get reasonable (even generous) timelines for most things unless it's something super important.

I love my job.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Ha, I could not be more the opposite. I want to be 75% done with my day by 1pm. I’d rather them be at 8am

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm the same way. If I could start work at 5:00 a.m. and be off by noon or 1:00 p.m. I'd be happy. It's just hard to find people who want to do therapy at 5:00 a.m. 😂

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are out there, in other time zones.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Indeed, move to Alaska then do therapy exclusively for east coasters.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Or Hawaii and you can do the entire US.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You know, actually I'm in Oregon, so I hadn't thought about the fact that if I did telehealth with people who lived across the country I might be able to start at 5:00.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is there some kind of rule that you can't do any work until the stand-up?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

No of course not. It’s just structurally kinda weird. Not the end of the world obviously