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[–] [email protected] 322 points 1 year ago (77 children)

Is it real antisemitism or just not supporting Israel?

About when they start going on about “Zionists” Is where I draw the line and where it typically takes a turn.

As a Jewish person, I find it healthy to criticize the Israeli government. Most young Israelis do. Their government has been steamrolled by a wannabe dictator that is corrupt as hell and his team of racist, backwards conservative orthodox buddies.

They were just protesting in the streets weeks ago and now we’re expected to turn around and support the government? Nah. This doesn’t change anything.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 year ago (11 children)

The problem is a lot of people don't differentiate between the israeli government and the israeli people as a whole - i've seen some straight up 'they had it coming' style bullshit that is verrry careful to place Good Jews and Bad Jews (the festival goers) to try and get a pass on antisemitsm and maaaan it is transparent as fuck.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What are you talking about? I know Jewish people that openly condemn the behavior of their gov. A person is good or bad depending on their actions - you cannot lump everyone together based on whatever characteristics you want and after that starting a genocide campaign.

The festival goes were just normal people like you and me that were trying to live and enjoy life. Same with the innocent people that are dying in Gaza.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm talking about commentary i've seen. People very careful to say 'i'm not an antisemite buuuuuuut'

Yeah. Sure.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah no. These two should be disconnected.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

dude if you go "I'm not an antisemite but those festival goers absolutely had it coming" then you are at the very least an utter cunt.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wasn't saying that. Was saying that being antisemite and condemning Israel's actions are two different things.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

and I was pointing out that some people are using this as an opportunity to be antisemitic. Calling israel out on its bullshit is one thing, but we're legit seeing people saying the victims of the attack had it coming for being israelis having a festival relatively near gaza.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Victim blaming is dumb af imho

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