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Highlights: In a bizarre turn of events last month, UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak announced that he would ban American XL bullies, a type of pit bull-shaped dog that had recently been implicated in a number of violent and sometimes deadly attacks.

XL bullies are perceived to be dangerous — but is that really rooted in reality?

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[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Cows kill more people than dogs. That does not mean that cows are more aggressive than dogs.

Plenty of dogs referred to as 'pitbulls' are not particularly aggressive at all. Often they're less aggressive than dogs of other breeds. All dogs were bred to be hunting dogs. They all have a prey drive. They can all hunt small animals. Some of the most aggressive dogs, are also the smallest, but a pekingese is less likely to cause serious damage. Being nipped by a pekingese is unlikely to merit a police report. (I say unlikely advisedly. Even small dogs can be dangerous.)

The whole 'pitbulls are aggressive' line is a dangerous misconception. Here's why:

Predictably, someone encounters a pitbull type. They've heard all about 'pitbulls' being aggressive. But this dog is not even slightly agressive. It is a nice friendly dog. It is especially careful with the children. They go on the internet, and see a video of a child sleeping on a pitbull. The pitbull is incredibly careful with the child.

"People are clearly exagerating how agressive pitbulls are!" "My pitbull is a sweetheart!" "Did you know pitbulls were known as nanny dogs! I read it on the internet."

But large powerful dogs aren't dangerous because they're aggressive. They're dangerous because they're large powerful dogs.

The owner leaves a child alone with a large powerful dog. The dog is entirely unagressive. But then firework goes off, the dog panics, the child is in the way. The child tugs the dogs tail, the dog gives what would be a corrective bite for a dog but is far more serious for a child. The dog grabs onto the child's hand, then doesn't let go because he thinks it's a game.

Obviously, it goes without saying that you can train a pitbull type to be aggressive, just like you can train any dog to be aggressive. But gangmembers don't typically train pekingese dogs to be aggressive just like the police don't typically use a chihuahua to catch criminals. They want a dog that is dangerous because it is powerful and intimidating. They can train it to be aggressive and bite people if necessary.

As a life long dog owner, who actually knows a bit about them, here's how you solve the dangerous dog issue:

  • mandatory registration and chip
  • mandatory insurance
  • mandatory training at a reputable school (which will also inevitably train the human owner out of the 'he wouldn't hurt a fly' nonsense or signal authorities if they notice the owner getting off on his dog being scary/dangerous)

Banning pitbull types? A short term fix which will result in another breed becoming the next aggressive arsehole fashion accessory.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

To a child a fucking dachshund is large and powerful. Leaving children alone with any dog is a parenting issue. I've seen my niece and nephew go from 0 to FUCKIN'RUNNIN'ROUNDSWINGIN'SWORDWOOOOOOOOO in .4 of a femtosecond and that shit would scare the fuck out of all but the most passive animals.