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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because - as I've explained in the comment you replied to - it's pretty easy to check it for yourself. Unless you believe that an Echo has a secondary cellular connection that's only used while muted, any traffic must go over your configured connection.

Just look at the amount of transferred data while it's muted. If there is data (beyond extremely low background traffic) I'm wrong. If there is no data, you're wrong.

This is not some hypothetical metaphysical principle we're talking about, it's a product that you can analyse yourself. Put up or shut up.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And I can do that all in 5 minutes without owning one?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Easily. The device doesn't care who owns it, you can use one owned by another person.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know anyone who owns one either.

But go ahead, do your experiment and report back. Should only take you 5 minutes to prove your claim.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why should I do it, when plenty of people have already done so, and reported the results I talked about?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you unable to Google, or are you acting willfully dense?

First example I found: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00779-018-1174-x

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol that looks like 5 minutes of work to you?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, a study that studies way more than what I described doesn't look like 5 minutes of work to me, why would it?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you gonna spot me the $40?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Why would I? Why isn't the study I've linked sufficient?

Why do you want me to disprove something you should easily be able to prove, and that other people have already disproven?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The study you linked is behind a $40 paywall

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  1. Have you never heard of Sci-Hub or other services to circumvent such paywalls?
  2. As I said, more than enough people have made such studies.

You could have easily figured out either of those if you were taking this conversation seriously. You obviously aren't, so I'll stop here.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

So that's a no on the $40?