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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's going to be hard to do in Federal custody.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Judge Cannon is doing her level fucking best to drag her feet until Trump can pardon himself, and then she can Jim the camera, shrug, and say "hey, that's justice for you"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who actually takes seriously the idea that self-pardoning is even a thing? I don't think it should ever be mentioned without pointing out what a batshit crazy idea it is.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok I really hate being that guy but if this happens you know that someone is going to make the argument that it is technically not in the writing. Especially since this is a common conservative trick, text only.

and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

Nothing in there about self-pardoning. Watch as they try this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Oh I'm sure they will, but I think anyone engaging with the issue in good faith will conclude that a it's implicit in the word "pardon" that it's something you do for someone else, and the authors of the Constitution would have forbidden self pardoning if it had occurred to them that anyone would twist their words in that particular way.

I just don't want the idea to become normalized, because then people will start to just accept it without thinking about whether it makes sense.