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This meme is from 2004. History repeats itself.

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[–] [email protected] 105 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It isn't anti-Semitism to criticize israel, it's just noticing the obvious.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are criticisms that are antisemitic. This isn't one of them, though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The only one I can think of is the idea that the Jews made up the Holocaust to guilt the West into giving up Israel...... Which is indeed antisemetic, and asburd

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My favorite was when Bernie Sanders was called antisemitic for criticizing Israel. His response was something along the lines of "It isn't antisemitic to criticize a right-wing government in Israel." It must've taken all the patience in the world to not add "you fucking toolbags".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not a Christian, but if Bernie was the second coming...

I'd be only slightly surprised

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Fascists get away with conflating Judaism and Zionism because they don't teach that Zionism has absolutely nothing to do with Judaism, and actually goes against a lot of their values. It's actually been around for quite awhile; you know the crusades, when they went around killing a bunch of civilians to set up settlements? Those were Christian Zionists.

That's why it's anti-semitic to conflate the two. One is a religion and the other is a fascist genocidal colonialist movement. So next time you see some german lady shouting down a holocaust survivor for calling out Israeli apartheid (yes, this literally happened, and it was the Jewish guy who got punished) you'll see it for what it is. It's not complicated, it's a clear cut case of modern day nazism.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Amen, who was it who said that the way to find out what group is getting away with too much bullshit is to look at what group you're not allowed to criticize in any Circle?