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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The Jews would have been justified in killing every German they could get their hands on if it could help stop the Holocaust.

A genocidal society has no right to claim the mercy of a civilian/soldier distinction. They do not recognize it themselves.

It is a horrible tragedy on a personal level. No one person has any power over the situation they find themselves in, but that is the brutal logic of war. Societies will feel less safe in engaging in targeting civilians if their own are subject to retaliation when they do so.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

But would it? No.

It wouldn't help stop the holocaust, only create death and destruction, that's kinda the whole point...

The death of your brother doesn't make you want to forgive his murderer and instead radicalizes you more deeply against him.

Is Israel stopping the targeting of citizens now? No! They've cut off water and electricity to Gaza again.

Hate begets hate, dumbfuck.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Violence against Germany literally ended the Holocaust so you are just a clown.

I guess you would have sent thoughts and prayers to the extermination camps.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

*violence against the German government and its armies.

Sorry you forgot a couple words there so I fixed it...

Or are we literally just rewriting history here?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Look at pictures of Germany after the war and tell me it wasn’t violence against Germany. Are you fucking kidding me? Over 500k German civilians died in the bombing raids.

“It was just collateral damage” - the words of a fucking coward who refuse to admit what they’ve done

It sucks they died but ending the Holocaust and Nazi Germany was a moral necessity.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sorry, since when did anything other than land invasion end the European theater of wwII? I'm pretty sure it's not widespread knowledge that Hitler killed himself in response to the bombing of Dresden...

The fact that you can't tell the difference between a music festival and the kind of infrastructure important to warfare that were bombed during WWII doesn't surprise me in the slightest, but it does sadden me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is so absurdly nitpicky I'm not sure what to say. The bombings of Germany DEFINITELY damaged their industry, which helped end the war.

Are you really implying that no innocent civilians were butchered by the ground invasion of Europe? (Also, hilariously, you left out that Japan was literally defeated without a ground invasion of Japan. Same war, buddy.)

You just seem like you can't accept wars mean violence against a people, not a military/government. It's a child's propaganda understanding of warfare that you have.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, is leveling Dresden with incindiary bombs targeting "the german government?" Is nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki "targeting the japanese army?"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Sorry, since when did anything other than land invasion end the European theater of wwII? I'm pretty sure it's not widespread knowledge that Hitler killed himself in response to the bombing of Dresden...

Japanese gov is irrelevant to this argument; don't change the goalposts. It's a different situation entirely, as the gov refused to back down after already being beaten in the actual theater of war. Bombing was the only way to avoid an incredibly costly land invasion of Japan.

Seems like you might benefit from opening up a history book.