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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

China has a working HSR system connecting all their major cities. The fact that their population scale is so massive means they also try weird shit to get what they can.

Japan is very narrow but it’s also very long. The actual amount of miles a train much cover from one end to the other is very large.

Yes the EU is not one country (though it is a polity). That should make it harder, not easier to cover it with rail, and yet there’s rail lines connecting all the major cities crossing national borders. Does the “size” counter reset once you cross a line on the map?

It’s not the size, it’s the political organization. You even hint at this when describing how we paved America: the political and economic configuration was aligned to make it happen despite the massive cost. The USA was crisscrossed by passenger rail and street cars, and still is for cargo. We just took a different path later, but it doesn’t actually have to be that way.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Absolutely doesn't, and we should push them to bring back rail, but that will take a very very long time to build. Even major cities are missing rail links, they would need huge infrastructure to add it there, and then smaller links for the teeny tiny towns. We should do both - invest in good public transit, and also embrace stopgap measures.

We can both say "EVs are the solution for now" and also do things like "No new lanes will be added unless rail is considered first"