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Youtube let the other shoe drop in their end-stage enshittification this week. Last month, they required you to turn on Youtube History to view the feed of youtube videos recommendations. That seems reasonable, so I did it. But I delete my history every 1 week instead of every 3 months. So they don't get much from my choices. It still did a pretty good job of showing me stuff I was interested in watching.

Then on Oct 1, they threw up a "You're using an Ad Blocker" overlay on videos. I'd use my trusty Overlay Remover plugin to remove the annoying javascript graphic and watch what I wanted. I didn't have to click the X to dismiss the obnoxious page.

Last week, they started placing a timer with the X so you had to wait 5 seconds for the X to appear so you could dismiss blocking graphic.

Today, there was a new graphic. It allowed you to view three videos before you had to turn off your Ad Blocker. I viewed a video 3 times just to see what happens.

Now all I see is this.

Google has out and out made it a violation of their ToS to have an ad blocker to view Youtube. Or you can pay them $$$.

I ban such sites from my systems by replacing their DNS name in my hosts file routed to 127.0.0.1 which means I can't view the site. I have quite a few banned sites now.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I mean, it makes sense no? They are a business after all. Why wouldn't they try to enforce their ads? I personally don't watch YT that much but why not just pay up if you need ad free experience? The content on YouTube is good because creators get paid well from ads

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Creators get paid well by their sponsors. They get shit on by Google which is why every video is sponsored. The aggressive ad rolls before and during the video pretty much just benefit google.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Google is still hosting the content. That costs them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

The one thing I have to concede is that you can use YouTube as a personal video storage system for free. Just upload them and set them to private and they will be kept for you indefinitely. There is nothing for Google to gain from letting users do this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Isn't it more because so many people watch with ad blockers that they got shit from Google though? (I'm saying this as someone that uses an ad block and sponsor block too)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you've ever seen a YouTuber speak in a weird way, stumble around certain topics, leave out important information that might be controversial or censor something that seems minor, then you should know the answer to your question is no.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

YouTube creators are being paid by a metric, you cannot really influence: CPM (cost per 1000 impressions). Basically, advertisers bid on how much they are willing to pay to show ads on your channel. For advertisers, it of course doesn't make sense to invest money on channels that have mediocre reach. Google describes your channel with metrics like your country of residency (poorer countries are getting smaller ad bids), type of content (cute animals doing cute stuff is getting paid less than tech or cosmetic videos), daily views and engagement rating (comments, likes, subscriber growth, percentage of video watched), etc. This puts all the pressure on the content creators: you are either huge and then you are getting paid well or you are not and then Google could pay you the full ad revenue for your channel (they take 45% I believe) and it would still be insignificant. You and me having ad block doesn't change that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ad bidding happens realtime though (I briefly worked on software in that sector) if you have ads blocked those calls to ask for bids won't occur. So having an adblock on reduces the chances of creators getting such ad money

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

While this is true, the payout itself is laughable for anyone isn't fully focused on optimizing their videos on monetization. And even those creators are better off with you supporting them directly by either joining their community on YT or donating to the Patreon they got set up. Google gets a cut from you joining their YT-community, but the creator still gets a better payout than they ever would if you only watched the ads. The next logical step for Google is to make linking or mentioning Patreon incompatible with their ToS since the Patreon circumvention is losing them revenue as well.

Also YT is prominently demonetizing videos for the any reason they see fit (and withhold from the creator) and when that happens, the creator gets nothing, but the viewer still sees ads, even tho they do see less ads. It's an exploitative system that went downhill over many years. The culprits here are not the evil ad block users, but the greedy shareholders expecting infinite growth.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you don't want to sound like a shill, be careful, because you do here...

YouTube is making a LOT of profit, they want MORE, endlessly MORE. "They are a business after all" is not valid in these conversations unless again... shill. Hopefully you didn't realize what you sound like here and this news is helpful to you going forward.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Calling someone a shill is not a good response.

I genuinely don't see the issue with blocking ad blockers if they're giving a subscription as an option. You literally get to choose to pay with your data and time or with cash. Video hosting isn't a public service.

Besides, YouTube has been screwed over by advertisers numerous times, and creators had to share some of the burden. If YouTube Premium is what allows YouTube to stay running and improve while also paying creators with more controversial content, I'm all for it.