this post was submitted on 08 Oct 2023
465 points (91.9% liked)
Asklemmy
43946 readers
615 users here now
A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions
Search asklemmy ๐
If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!
- Open-ended question
- Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
- Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
- Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
- An actual topic of discussion
Looking for support?
Looking for a community?
- Lemmyverse: community search
- sub.rehab: maps old subreddits to fediverse options, marks official as such
- [email protected]: a community for finding communities
~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_[email protected]~
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Ayn Rand once said "It is not I who will die, it is the world." I will never stop being anti-intellectual personally so when I die it can't change.
Sorry, the answer is no but if you trust the quote the world will only exist for another 30-40 years so I wouldn't worry.
It's alright, Rand was wrong about that statement just like she was wrong about virtually everything she said.
Seriously. Bizarre quote to take as truth ~~on a communist forum~~
tbf lemmy.ml is mostly neolib in practice.
Wait, but that's a hexbear user? What?
You're right. I just saw they were a comrade bear and made the assumption
They're a haver of interesting takes, to say the least
Nah it's a bit. No one actually unironically identifies as anti-intellectual.
I'm kinda of a Diogenes figure. Sometimes you get "behold a man" and sometimes you get a homeless man yelling at passerbys.
No. You're just being obnoxiously smug while expecting people to praise you as some sort of eccentric philosopher.
There's countless "Digoenes figures" like yourself already and they all believe they are the Main Character, too. And like you already did in the other comment chain here, they also get just as mad when their junk philosophy (such as, in your case, Ayn Rand) gets called out.
Literally describing myself as a homeless man and anti-intellectual. No one is taking it seriously but you man.
Are you seriously invoking Ayn Rand as a source of wisdom?
And that particularly solipsistic quote?
Oh look another "materialist" who relies on the pan-psychic influence of others to determine reality. How Jungian of you. Thatcher once said, "there is no society, only individuals." Do you disagree? I imagine so. Even Marx called out Commodity Fetishism but you put the greatest fetish of all on society and reality as something inherent. If reality is just an interplay of individuals, the truth proven by both Rand and Marx, then an individual is free to form their own reality away from your own.
You'll never know the true truth because you're still enslaved the collective unconsciousness.
Also, did you really think someone was actually identifying as anti-intellectual. Come on, I know you couldn't understand the the ironic Freud in your "I want dommy mommy to step on me" thread but this is ridiculous. Looks like you got owned on two fetishes, mommy and commodity.
You believe you are the Main Character of the universe and that everything ceases to exist when you die. And you're accusing me of believing in woo bullshit.
And you're such a scratched liberal that you started foaming at the mouth with some weird personal attack you've been holding on to, apparently, for weeks.
Solipsism is a helluva drug.
Man you really don't understand when people are doing bits. You think people would just go on the internet and not mean literally everything they type?
Hexbear needs a villian, don't you understand UlyssesT? You wouldn't be having half of the enjoyment in this conversation if I just did a normal comment. But now I got to do a silly bit and you got to pretend you're arguing with someone serious.
Discussion on the internet is inherently worthless because no one ever changes their opinions. It's a black box in which no matter the inputs, the outputs remain the same. Is it really so wrong then to lay down ideas like "seriousness" if it doesn't change anything? Your answer will be of course that I'm delusional and only doing this to cope or something because that's what your opinion started as. No matter what you or I say, we cannot change.
Stop posting and touch grass if you want truth, nothing here matters.
Being obnoxious and falling back to "it was just a bit" is tiresome and belongs in the dustbin of history right alongside the "ironic" nazis of 4chan. Insincere people like you can move the goalposts all you want but I just see the obnoxious part and stop there because that's all there usually is under those pretentious masks of irony.
You first, especially because of your masturbatory "I am internet Diogenes" LARPing attempts, be they bits or ironic or whatever you want to pretend they were.
Your internet nihilism is childish and about 20 years stale. 4chan is still open if you want to go somewhere that still praises internet nihilism.
If you're not being praised for your Diogenes LARP, bit or irony or whatever, nothing matters because all you care about is being praised for your bit/irony/very-smartness!
https://existentialcomics.com/comic/125