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The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps gave the final go-ahead last Monday in Beirut

Iranian security officials helped plan Hamas’s Saturday surprise attack on Israel and gave the green light for the assault at a meeting in Beirut last Monday, according to senior members of Hamas and Hezbollah, another Iran-backed militant group.

Officers of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps had worked with Hamas since August to devise the air, land and sea incursions—the most significant breach of Israel’s borders since the 1973 Yom Kippur War—those people said.

Details of the operation were refined during several meetings in Beirut attended by IRGC officers and representatives of four Iran-backed militant groups, including Hamas, which holds power in Gaza, and Hezbollah, a Shiite militant group and political faction in Lebanon, they said.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And que World War 3 ladies and gentlemen. Buckle up, because this is gonna get messy.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (5 children)

As a millennial I'm excited to live through my like 5th WW3.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seriously, every single local war is a fresh breeding ground for WW3 according to morons online

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A guy bumped into me at the pub. I fear this could escalate to WW3.1+ PRO MAX

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Sponsored by Pepsi.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a GenX-er, I grew up with WW3 as a constant possibility. My third grade teacher showed us a TV movie about nuclear war that had me thinking every plane that flew overhead was a nuclear missile.

Maybe this is why GenX is the "whatever" generation. When you grow up thinking you're going to die at any moment, you tend to shrug off a lot of stuff.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Doom-mongering. Climate change would still do more damage than WW3 unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let's just wait for the Taiwan invasion.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It would be the perfect time for China to attack.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Tell me about it. Wars, financial collapses, housing crisis, mass inflation...

It hasn't been great.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We're sending a carrier strike group. This could be an enormous escalation.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They send those things everywhere. This isnt going to escalate much further, its just another regional skirmish that will die down in 1-2 news cycles

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fucking great. I hope cooler heads can prevail.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

When both sides of a conflict make the claim that the same piece of dirt is sacred to their religion, it's unlikely for cooler heads to get a word in edgeways.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, there's also the fact that after WWII, while the Allies were dividing the world up like a giant birthday cake, they created most of these problems: North Korea, Iraq-Kuwait, and plunking a new Jewish country down in the middle of Arabia.

If the Allies had decided that Ohio is a new Jewish country, what would've been the fallout from that?

As much as we seem a step removed from this issue, we made the problem.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

New Jewish country? It was a Jewish nation first and Jews have lived there FAR longer than Arabs.

This is more like if the US lost WWII and the axis decided to give the Native Americans back their territories.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even according to the Bible/Torah it wasn't a Jewish Nation first, it was a "Promised Land" which they conquered.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Also, the concept of a "nation" didn't exist until the late 1700s. There were Jewish tribes in the Levant region, along with a ton of other tribes, many of which were just loose clans of family groups.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It gets really into the weeds.

As an ethnic group, Arabs trace back to Abraham through his first son Ishmael from his concubine Hagar.

Jews trace back to Abraham through his son Isaac and grandson Jacob, who was renamed Israel.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ethnic groups don't trace back to single people, especially not ones from fairy tales.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

According to the Abrahamic tradition, Arabs are descendants of Abraham through his son Ishmael.[73] Islamic sources state that Abraham brought Hagar and Ishmael to Mecca.[74] The 14th century Arab historian Ibn Kathir mention that the pre-Islamic Arabs considered Ishmael as their patriarch.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabs

Tracing their lineage to Abraham and Ishmael is literally the common element that ties them together as an ethnic group.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

According to the Abrahamic tradition

Like I said, fairy tales. According to tradition women were also made from a man's rib and people lived for hundreds of years. None of that is real.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Which isn’t really relevant because that fairy tale is the common thing that ties them together. That’s what a fucking ethnic group is. It’s not a race or anything.

An ethnicity or ethnic group is a grouping of people who identify with each other on the basis of perceived shared attributes that distinguish them from other groups. Those attributes can include a common nation of origin, or common sets of ancestry, traditions, language, history, society, religion, or social treatment.

Religion, ancestry, and tradition are the big things that join Arabs together as an ethnic group.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

May the coming nuclear war wipe all forms of religion from the face of the earth. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So we can finally see peace on this planet 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As much as I agree, that religion makes people do stupid/dangerous/horrible things, both of the world wars were not started for religious reasons. So maybe, there are more things that make people hate each other than just religion.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Religion is seldom the initial cause of wars, but it is almost always used as a tool to motivate and drag the population along with the war effort.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

But that doesn’t fit the 2008 new atheist narrative