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I've had my current laptop (dell g5 15, 9th gen i7, 1660ti, 16gb RAM) for 6 years now, and its great for running every game aside from cp2077 at med-high graphics, 60fps smoothly. its on its on its way out though (mostly the issue is cp2077, brings it to its knees, 50fps on low at best)

either way, looking to build something that can do the same as this thing did but at 1440p 120+ fps. what sort of budget will I need for that?

tldr: how much would it cost to build a PC that can run 1440p 120+ fps high settings for the next 5 or so years. ty all :)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yeah, I'm gonna disagree with this guy. that's definitely not going to get you that performance for 5 years. that will get you that now on most, but not all games at Max. if you want 120 high 1440 for 5 years you need close to the highest end offered now.

that said, this community is probably the most amd focused place I've ever seen. the debate between amd and Nvidia isn't nearly as cut and died as they want to make it seem. even if they are mad at nvidia for real reasons. right now nvidia is not chasing traditional rendering at all. so amd is winning when it comes to that, but that's not where nvidia says the future is. nvidia is building their cards around their objectively superior, even if proprietary, upscaling technology (dlss). so for the next 5 years at least, nvidia will be pushing it's massive anti competitive weight into making dlss the way of the future. into making sure games are made with performance targets exprecting the use of dlss.

so honestly, a big part of this decision that no one here will tell you is whether you want to fight for what you believe should be the future of gaming, or you accept that nvidia will just do whatever regardless of how many foss heads scream about it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

if you want 120 high 1440 for 5 years you need close to the highest end offered now.

You can pretend to know that for certain all you want, but we have no idea what technological limitations we will run into or change in the market will demand that companies optimize their games because the market simply can't support buying newer hardware.

You're correct that my build won't get me the stated performance for five years, but I don't think you need to snag a 4090 to get 1440p 120FPS with medium graphics five years from now. While you may disagree with that assessment, we are both shooting in the dark here as the market goes through the next half decade.

What's my justification? Performance at a specific resolution is always going to be more important, if my 1660 can get 75FPS on high settings with modern games at 1920x1080p then there's no reason to believe that a build/card that can get you 144FPS at 1440p high/ultra graphics today won't be able to play games for five years by just adjusting certain titles down a bit.

Five years isn't even a full console generation, unless the games are planning to be unplayable on consoles they have to be around the same level of capability. His only real concern is VRAM so I think either AMD or a high GB Nvidia on the used market. Pair with a late gen Ryzen 7 AM4 and he's good to go for a budget friendly build on a more realistic dime.

He will have to adjust his settings but that's not a problem according to him.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

didn't say he needed a 4090 lol. no one needs a4 4090, it's ridiculous and way way overpriced card. the top end is never worth it. that 4090 well be matched by a 6070tii in like 4 years for like a 5th the price.

i said he needed closer to the top, more like a 4070, or a 3070 ti. 40 series is pretty not worth it. (only referencing nvidia because their naming scheme is easier to follow)

also, this is all speculative. just as i can't claim to KNOW what will be needed, neither can you. my prediction is that those specs well leave him struggling at low -medium on new games in 5 years. you can't claim to know that the hardware will be fine that long any more than i can claim that it won't. it's just a prediction and that's the best anyone can offer.

this is a very volatile and uncertain time in the future of pc hardware. my real advice is not to try that hard to predict 5 years from now.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I literally suggested a 3070ti or 3080 though? Somewhere in this thread, I could have sworn.