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Apple: Deflection Champion for many years running.
How is saying it’s a software problem with both the apps and the OS itself that they working on a fix for a deflection? This is nothing like the holding it wrong thing.
It's gotta be at least partly hardware if it even -can- overheat in the first place. You should be able to peg the hardware at 100% and have it throttle itself if it's getting too hot. The individual apps are never to blame if the phone is capable of getting too hot by running specific software.
That depends entirely on your definition of “too hot”. I’m sure if it gets hot enough to threaten to harm the hardware, it will throttle. “Too hot to be comfortable to hold” is a much lower and more subjective number.
Why specifically would it be a good idea to design a phone that can get too hot to touch when you are in complete control of exactly what temperature it throttles at? Literally every single phone design team decides the hottest it should ever get and works backwards from there. This is a very standard step of the design of all hand-held hardware.
This isn't just some random thing that could occur on any phone given the right/wrong software. They very specifically make sure that the maximum theoretical temperature it could hit is still possible to hold in your hand. This is absolutely at the very least a firmware issue, but they don't want to change it because then the phone won't benchmark as well as it does now. So instead they are blaming software that runs the phone "too hard" rather than the phone being able to be run "too hard" in the first place.
That’s what was happening. Apps were stuck and consuming resources; there was no hardware failure. All limiters worked as expected.
Phone still gets warm at 100% utilization and thermally limited. What do you expect, no heat emission whatsoever?
I expect them to be like every other phone when running their hardware at 100% and get a reasonably high temperature. It clearly doesn't throttle soon enough for the hardware and heat dissipation they should have meticulously designed it to have, like literally every other phone they have made, and all other phone companies make. There is a reason this is uncommon, it's not supposed to be able to happen, no matter what the software is doing, unless something in the design stages went wrong.
This is exactly what’s happening. It’s “warmer than expected”, not overheating. It’s properly limited, just being pegged at 100% by misbehaving software.
Ah sorry, the way I heard it, it was too hot to touch. If that isn't the case and it's over blown then sure. But I feel like if it was just normal overheating that every phone does when pegged at 100% and charging, it shouldn't have become a story.
This is insane. The hardware for a handheld device should have limitations from giving you literal first degree burns. It's 100% Apple.
Is there a source for anyone getting literal first degree burns?
Of course not. But why not make up facts instead?
Yeah. Are they trying to Judo this?
"Your car would work fine forever if you never drove it. DUH."
"Don't hold it like that" -Steve Jobs, when the iphone4 dropped signal if you held it like a phone to your ear.