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Huh... good point, i didnt think about it like that, and it kinda does bring the whole post down into something like "old man yells at cloud" kinda thing but with the twist being more like "Young snowflake yells at chicken burger".
But i think the point being made in the meme its still valid, that being the chase for infinte grow doesnt really promote innovation, instead it just promotes copying what already works while not really improving the thing and not making peoples lifes better, and that they would rather do that than to invest into something that could make peoples lifes better because that wouldnt make as much money ore would be to risky, but i feel like this is more aplicable into artistic industries like movies and music or even with tech industries, while in gastronomy it really is just offers more variety, otherwise what? You would have to get the same chicken burger from the same corporation and thats monopoly and its bad. Probably a better example would have been with smartphones, specially the apple ones.
Sorry for the rant btw, i just got al this realizations in my brain and had to dump them somewhere.
I think the meme is unintentionally making the opposite point. All these chicken sandwiches don't taste the same. I enjoy spicy chicken so I've tried a handful of them, and there's marked differences in flavor. There still is innovation, in trying to create the tastiest spicy chicken sandwich. If they all tasted the exact same, I'd agree.
I said the one its trying to make, not the one it ends up making.
The one it ends up making its just the example i gave earlier, that being "Young snowflake yells at chicken burger"
Don't worry about the rant, we're all here to chat about whatever. Most of us, anyways.
Yeah, many people have an objection to Chick-fil-A due to their um... views, and they should have the option to get a greasy fried chicken sandwich somewhere else. (Or on Sundays)
It's more that the people who are funding these who don't want to take risks, right? Many of them are trying to replicate what works due to the aversion for risks, instead of trying to make something that's good.
Yes thats all true, im aware that not everyone whants or even needs to pursue innovation and that is good, not everybody is steve jobs nor james cameron nor they should be, but it does become a problem when they copy way to much, like for example disney movies, How many movies have had a main character become grumpy because they lost a loved one? Im talking indiana jhones, luke skywalker, han solo, obi wan and nick fury i hear even if i hadnt really seen their series and i heard that in hounted mansion movie too, hell two of those are the same actor.
They are just copying what has worked in the past ( i think its the Logan movie they are copying but im not sure) and made products with doubius quality while burning thons of money without making any of it back, specially with indiana jhones wich seems to be the biggest bomb ever.
They could have used all those billions into making something good or just straight up donate it to charity, or just spend it in something with a better return of investnent like heroin, but they thrown it from a bridge chasing trends, making no bodies lifes better nor happier and probably had an impact on the market somehow, even though fuck the market, but a lot of people other than the super rich do eat from it.
Or at least thats my perspective on this. Again sorry for the length.
I don't see how selling a similar looking chicken burger means there's no innovation. Innovation in how the end product looks is just one form of innovation, and there are many more. Innovation in marketing, innovation in management practices, innovation in ingredients and sourcing, innovation in kitchen effiency, innovation in customer interaction, innovation in franchising and corporate structure, innovation in restaurant design, innovation in niche capitalization, innovation in novel products to attract groups, and I'm sure many more I can't think of.
Cmon m8, with all due respect dont be debating semantics.
Of course there are diferences in the burgers and the entities that sell them, after all they are not made by the same people, the idea is the same in the product, and a chicken burger is not really a concept that should be judged with it being original or not, kinda like oatmeal or hooks or screws, like of course there are diferences, but that wasnt the point this dumb meme was trying to make, it was that companoes just copy each other in the pursuit for endless revenue and dont like totake risks in products that could make peoples lifes better, thats what its trying to say, now what it acctually says its that "capitalism bad cuz same chicken burger junk food" and ends up falling on its face and looking more like an "old man yells at cloud" kinda deal, but instead of a clowd its chicken burgers and instead of old man is a young snowflake.
Yeah I get the idea, "right wingers say capitalism leads to innovation yet these chicken burgers all look the same". My point in semantics was to say there is a lot more to innovation than the appearance of the end product.
That's still not a valid point. There are all kinds of products being released all the time that make people's lives better. (Don't mistake that for claiming that all products from all companies make people's lives better, or that capitalism is the only way to have that happen.)
Im just gonna copy and paste another comment i already made about that:
Yes thats all true, im aware that not everyone whants or even needs to pursue innovation and that is good, not everybody is steve jobs nor james cameron nor they should be, but it does become a problem when they copy way to much, like for example disney movies, How many movies have had a main character become grumpy because they lost a loved one? Im talking indiana jhones, luke skywalker, han solo, obi wan and nick fury i hear even if i hadnt really seen their series and i heard that in hounted mansion movie too, hell two of those are the same actor.
They are just copying what has worked in the past ( i think its the Logan movie they are copying but im not sure) and made products with doubius quality while burning thons of money without making any of it back, specially with indiana jhones wich seems to be the biggest bomb ever.
They could have used all those billions into making something good or just straight up donate it to charity, or just spend it in something with a better return of investnent like heroin, but they thrown it from a bridge chasing trends, making no bodies lifes better nor happier and probably had an impact on the market somehow, even though fuck the market, but a lot of people other than the super rich do eat from it.
Or at least thats my perspective on this. Again sorry for the length.
The bit about "capitalism promotes innovation" doesn't mean that every product offered by every company is going to be some total game changer.
Im just gonna copy and paste another comment i already made about that:
Yes thats all true, im aware that not everyone whants or even needs to pursue innovation and that is good, not everybody is steve jobs nor james cameron nor they should be, but it does become a problem when they copy way to much, like for example disney movies, How many movies have had a main character become grumpy because they lost a loved one? Im talking indiana jhones, luke skywalker, han solo, obi wan and nick fury i hear even if i hadnt really seen their series and i heard that in hounted mansion movie too, hell two of those are the same actor.
They are just copying what has worked in the past ( i think its the Logan movie they are copying but im not sure) and made products with doubius quality while burning thons of money without making any of it back, specially with indiana jhones wich seems to be the biggest bomb ever.
They could have used all those billions into making something good or just straight up donate it to charity, or just spend it in something with a better return of investnent like heroin, but they thrown it from a bridge chasing trends, making no bodies lifes better nor happier and probably had an impact on the market somehow, even though fuck the market, but a lot of people other than the super rich do eat from it.
Or at least thats my perspective on this. Again sorry for the length.