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Reading about FOSS philosophy, degoogling, becoming against corporations, and now a full-blown woke communist (like Linus Torvalds)

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Fuck communist statist, foss is pure anarchism.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My ~~brother in Christ~~ Comrade in the revolution, Communism is a stateless, moneyless, classless society. Whatever self-proclaimed "Statist Communists" thare are, are no-more Communist than the National "Socialists" who sent our kind to the death camps.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The end stage of the dialectic is that, yes. But that's doesn't just appear from nothing. Read state and Revolution or What is to be done.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

But that's doesn't just appear from nothing.

Yea I think that's kinda their point

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Personally while I think all states should be abolished and all resources should be shared on a global scale, I also think that the company that serves my house with Internet should be forced to compete so that we (the people in my city) can get the benefits of capitalism: improved prices and service.

I also believe that the latter is actually a step towards the former - though it's just a guess.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Anarchism does not necessarily exclude Communism! :)

Good Explanations: https://www.anarchistfaq.org/afaq/index.html for those interested

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago

If only communism could function under voluntarism.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

FLOSS is Voluntaryism - it only requires voluntary participation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

FOSS is Ricks group from The Walking Dead

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Eh, depends on the project

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It seeks to undermind the corrupt copywrite systems and promotes decenteralizrd collaberation and cooperation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Disagree. If FOSS were an anarchism what would be the point of FOSS lincences of which some are very long legal documents? Also corporations would just take your code, say its theirs and tell you to go fuck yourself.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Foss licenses are copyleft, they bar individuals from enclosing the commons built by the collective for profit. Anarchism isn’t just letting people do whatever they want. Anarchism means against hierarchy. Having rules that prevent unjustified hierarchies from forming is entirely with in the bounds of anarchism. Including rules that prevent using copyright as a coercive hierarchy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

All heirarchies are unjustified.

I'd look at foss licenses more as tools of defence against (and within) the current system/context than "rules" that serve to enforce some kind of anti-capitalist "heirarchy".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Copyleft is NOT against profit! Go read Stallman! Anarchy mean 'No Rulers' not no hierarchy. Call yourself an Anorderist otherwise! Hierarchy is just a form of structure. Some people have management and coordination skills. Others specialise in an area that fits into a greater project. There is nothing wrong in a voluntary structure system. It is only the initiation of force upon structure (see. Government) or otherwise that is a problem.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Honest question: "Without any authority who gets to enforce the rules?". Everyone, as they see fit it seems. What makes "your" hierarchy better than "my" hierarchy?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Everyone sort of enforces the rules as they see fit now. The difference is there is an expectation to not resist when someone is abusing their power because they are an authority figure. Under anarchism, it is your peers holding each other accountable, and your right to question actions against you is accepted.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I look at it the other way. In a free and prosperous armed society where common sense rules are respected and insisted upon by the majority who would be stupid enough to break the rules? Let us look at it some other ways. Ebay is one of the largest merchant structures in the world. It is not an authority, but has for decades now used in-house arbitration for disputes. Detroit has a private 'police force'. It is not an authority. It is a private defence org that also runs a volunteer community protection unit that uses psychology as its main policing tool. Historically we had Panarchy in Ireland. People regardless of territory could voluntarily join a tuath. It would offer legal services. If unsatisfactory the client could join another tuath. Even today way much more is spent on private security than on policing. Maratine law orignally ran on banishment. Did not pay your contract or larder bill. You could no longer dock your ship or be served at a tavern etc. Before the state co-opted the law, there was Common Law! Law does not require authority.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Tell me you don't understand anarchism without telling me you don't understand anarchism.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Communism is when government does something. Anarchism is when you do fuck all to protect yourself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Government is when an involuntary institution has a mafia protection racket. They show up after a crime and write a report. Anarchism is when you take responsibility for your own protection.