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With just days to go before the government runs out of money, the Senate has unveiled a bipartisan stopgap bill in a bid to avert a shutdown – but there’s no guarantee that it will be able to pass in the House.

The Senate stopgap bill, which would keep the government funded until November 17, includes $6.2 billion in Ukraine aid and $6 billion for natural disasters.

The release of the Senate bill, which was negotiated on a bipartisan basis, sets up a stark contrast – and a showdown – with the House, where the Republican majority faces deep divisions and the demands of hardline conservatives have been highly influential in driving the agenda as a shutdown looms.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (6 children)

This stopgap bill would absolutely have enough votes to pass in the House and the only reason McCarthy won't bring it to a vote is because the hard liners would motion to vacate the speakership. So the US will be plunged into chaos all because one guy doesn't want to lose his title. Cool democracy.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The other option would be to cut a deal with the democrats to support him staying speaker just to give a massive middle finger to the traitor caucus.

But that would require a spine and a modicum of political wherewithal. McCarthy has neither, so its going to be interesting to see how this turns out.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah, McCarthy is fucked either way because cutting a deal with Democrats will mean getting primaried when he's up for reelection.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's likely to happen anyway because he put himself in a no win scenario. The hard liners' demands can't make it through the Senate, because even the Senate Republicans aren't onboard with that shit.

So it's cut a deal with the Democrats to keep the government open, and get primaried, or shutdown the government and weaken the party in 2024... And get primaried because his speakership was disastrous.

Gaetz's imaginary door #3 doesn't exist, and McCarthy knows it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So the US will be plunged into chaos all because one guy doesn’t want to lose his title.

Two guys, actually; it almost happened before with Trump.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Couldn't the "moderate" Republicans do the same if he doesn't bring it to a vote though?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's that the hard liners would immediately kick Mccarthy and no one wants to deal with those assholes and run for majority leader. The majority is so slim that those assholes hold a lot of power. Republicans always fall in line. they can't work with democrats. They would immediately be ostracized and lose reelection.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I can't remember the exact number but only 5 to 7 need to flip right?

Are there 5 -7 non crazy GOP house members who aren't up for re-election as they are stepping aside/down anyway?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can we just dissolve the council, permanently?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And give the regional governors direct control over their territories?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How would we maintain control?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fear will keep the locals in line. Fear of progress!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Don't be too proud of this electoral college you've constructed. It is insignificant compared to the power of ignorance.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Could he put it up for a vote before they manage to remove him and sacrifice himself to save the government for another 2 months? Or could they remove him outright and lock government up for a few weeks guaranteed until enough Republicans get pissed and vote a dem speaker into the chair?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

He isn't going to sacrifice himself because he is a total piece of shit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Lol McCarthy doing anything that benefits others at a cost to him. He could have cross the aisle on multiple occasions to strip the lunatic fringiest part of his party of power at a much lower cost to himself. The man has all the spine of a jellyfish.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

So the US will be plunged into chaos all because one guy doesn't want to lose his title. Cool democracy.

Wait. I heard this one before. Is this a rerun?