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Quick solution for situations like this: compulsive retirement.
65 years old? Get out of here or get thrown out.
Disagree-ish.
I would suggest that, instead, after a certain age or catastrophic loss (such as that of a lifetime partner) we should all be receiving regular competency / cognizants evaluations. I think that compulsive retirement would be dehumanizing, a potential trigger for senility, dementia, or suicide, and a negligent misappropriation of the experience and institutional knowledge, that many of our seniors hold.
Most modern countries contemplate the notion that at some point in your life you are deemed unfit of occupying an active position, regardless whatever experience an individual may have in whatever field.
What that does not imply is the individual being rendered useless. Highly experienced individuals can act as teachers, mentors and advisers, sharing experience but with no weight for actual decision making or action taking.
I myself don't intend to reach retirement age and turn off all switches and just stay home and vegetate; I think I can make myself useful up until my body becomes too frail and my mind breaks. But there is a point where I don't want to have any responsabilities towards an institution.
65 isn’t the same as 96
1 is not the same as 2
Care to elaborate on that, please? I'm not following your reasoning.
That’s Because you’re being an ageist.
You're going to have to elaborate on your reasoning. One sentence makes no service to explain yourself.
if you applied this unilaterally you'll end up with a lot of homeless old people
Surely we can find a sensible middle ground between allowing senile elderly folks to hold positions of power and kicking every 65 year old out of every job lmao.
I mean yeah you'd think so but also I was just responding to the top comment
I'm pretty sure they were referring to judges specifically.
What about homeless former judges?
Have you considered them?
Why?
In my very backwards and barbaric country every person, regardless of their profession, receives a state paid pension and we have a notion of social safety net. There are homeless here, like everywhere else in the world, but elderly citizens can retire knowing they will be taken care of.
On the particular case of judges, and on this I have the luck to have been explained how things work, upon reaching 65, a judge is retired and recognized by their service, with a very generous pension, as the career is considered as being of high strain.
No one should be forced nor allowed to work until their dying breath and this is a prime example for it.
The US are a shithole that stays afloat because the population is kept tame via populist discourse and seeded in-fighting.
And after reading your comment, I find myself wondering how so many people, from my country included, go to the UK to work. Sounds a bit like US but a notch down.
We all make our choices but you could have chosen other countries, with better social networks.
I have been making contributions towards my national pension fund since I started working and enjoy a free access NHS. When I eventually reach the age of retirement, which now is around 67 years of age, I'll be granted a pension based on my contributive career.
I'll still be able to keep working if I choose to but most people don't and others are barred from it, like judges, surgeons, police officers and even politians, as they are seen unfit to hold crucial positions.
And this applies to all emigrants that move here, with some added conditions, obviously, but still are eligible for these social benefits.
And regardless all of this, you can and should save (products with special tax exemptions exist for that exact purpose) if you expect to maintain a specific standard of living.
75 seems more reasonable