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[-] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

Adobe Suite?

Affinity Suite?

Proton Drive?

Editing in Davinci? (free version of DaVinci Resolve on Linux cannot playback any H.264 or H.265 video, and the free and paid version cannot playback AAC audio on Linux..)

You know, anything productive?

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I've not used any of that software, I guess I've never been productive in my life

[-] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago

"I dont use that, so this guy doesn't know how to work computers".

You guys are insufferable. Enjoy your Linux. Love seeing you guys bitch on every software launch for a Linux release lmao.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Oh, I wasn't even attacking you, just making a goofy comment. I guess you're just a little sensitive?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You’re the one who showed up to bitch and got clobbered with downvotes. Enjoy photo editing on windows, we all know you can’t do that on any other operating system “productively” 😂

[-] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

I am not bitching about downvotes. I do not care.

Enjoy editing in Gimp and Kdenlive lmao.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Does everything I need without having to pay Adobe every month. Enjoy your subscription!

[-] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

I bought Affinity for a one time fee. Enjoy trying to get a job using gimp 😂😂😂

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Love seeing you guys bitch on every software launch for a Linux release lmao.

Yeah, no. I don't want any Windows software. Everything I use is free/open source.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Are you implying software can't be released for Windows/Mac only, and be FOSS? 💀

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Davinci Resolve

Use Kdenlive

Adobe

I don't use them but according to winehq it somewhat runs well.

Affinity

Well yeah... I used Designer and Publisher extensively when I still used Windows. I asked and begged them to consider a linux version but they didn't saw the marketplace. Guess we Linux users aren't productive enough. So instead we have to resort to Inkscape and Krita.

Proton drive

Well fuck them for not considering making a filesystem driver for every OS. Especially THE OS most associated with servers and privacy minded users.

Perhaps migrate to a more open cloud provider like Nextcloud?

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The proton drive issue will be fixed. It's still early beta really. Shame but proton always come good.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Glad to hear that.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Kdenlive isn't a replacement for Davinci or Premiere, sorry.

I rely on either Affinity Designer or Adobe Illustrator to run my business. Inkscape and Krita are not capable of professional work.

I pay for Proton, so I am not going to say fuck it because they, like most companies, don't look at Linux Desktop as a real OS. Sorry.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Inkscape and Krita are not capable of professional work.

How so?

[-] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

They lack the features and tools.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[-] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why not? Because the tools are different?

Imagine that, that different tools have different workflows. How utterly awful.

And you are not sorry at all.

But hey you like windows, being vendor locked in, getting spied upon, having to deal with shitty decisions and bloat. That's your prerogative. We don't.

What's your professional business anyway?

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Are you really that dense? Different tools don't equal different workflows. It means some things aren't possible on kdenlive that people need to use in their professional work.

That's like saying paint is a replacement for Photoshop. Enjoy trying to professionally edit photos with paint.

But hey, you like Linux, trying to troubleshoot why your graphics card doesn't work, begging companies to release a Linux version of software, trying to hunt around for hardware that supports your Linux distribution.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Are you really that dense? Different tools don’t equal different workflows. It means some things aren’t possible on kdenlive that people need to use in their professional work.

Yes, tools that aren't drop-in replacement have often different workflows. thats simply a fact. It doesn't imply that those tools have features that aren't available in others.

That’s like saying paint is a replacement for Photoshop. Enjoy trying to professionally edit photos with paint.

your words, not mine. You can pretty much do nearly everything in krita that you can do in photoshop. Perhaps RAW support isnt there though.

But hey, you like Linux, trying to troubleshoot why your graphics card doesn’t work, begging companies to release a Linux version of software, trying to hunt around for hardware that supports your Linux distribution.

I am very happy with my AMD CPU and GPUs, thank you very much.

What’s your professional business anyway?

so what is it?

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Yes, tools that aren’t drop-in replacement have often different workflows. thats simply a fact. It doesn’t imply that those tools have features that aren’t available in others.

You can pretty much do nearly everything in krita that you can do in photoshop. Perhaps RAW support isnt there though.

Pick a lane, dude.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just because the tools aren't one for one compatible doesnt mean they don't have equivalent features.

Sure, Photoshop has a few (dozen) features that Krita doesn't, but no one uses those anyway.

You can't have both.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

don't cite something I've never said.

What I said is: Krita can do many things that Photoshop (pixel manipulation, layer effects, pathing, animation etc.) can also do. But on other fronts, like RAW Manipulation (like non-destructive Editing) or croppin g, it may fall short. So what can you do to mitigate that? Adjust your workflow by introducing, if possible, other tools that can do those things.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I am very happy with my AMD CPU and GPUs, thank you very much.

Lmfao. Enjoy your last gen ray tracing and garbage FSR.

so what is it?

I am not telling you, creep. When someone doesn't want to answer personal info, stop asking. It's sad you need to be told this.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Lmfao. Enjoy your last gen ray tracing and garbage FSR.

yawns i don't care about overpriced ray tracing at all. I care about cost and power efficiency. Something team green can only dream about.

I am not telling you, creep. When someone doesn’t want to answer personal info, stop asking. It’s sad you need to be told this.

lol as if stating in which general branch your professional business is, is worth anything. I just wanted to know what kind of need on software you would have.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Lmao Linux users cope with the "I don't care, I don't even want it" excuses. Comes out so naturally when you have to give up nearly everything on Linux.

I don't want to answer you, stop asking, creep. Get the hint.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Lmao Linux users cope with the “I don’t care, I don’t even want it” excuses. Comes out so naturally when you have to give up nearly everything on Linux.

I care about cost and power efficiency. Something team green can only dream about.

i told you my reasons.

I don’t want to answer you, stop asking, creep. Get the hint.

okay punk. have a shitty day man.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

okay punk. have a shitty day man.

Class. Telling me to have a shitty day because I asked you not to keep asking me about private information. Take the hint. Back off, creep.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

don’t look at Linux Desktop as a real OS

Linux runs like 90% of the world’s servers. You can’t even get half of Microsoft’s shitty software on AWS. Not to mention that development outside of C# (even that’s a pain in the ass to deploy) on Windows is an exercise in BDSM.

But sure buddy, whatever you have to tell yourself to sleep at night. I’m sure you’re making 10x more money than the rest of us as a (checks notes) photo and video editor 🙄

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I said desktop. You literally quoted it.

Linux server and Linux desktop aren't the same thing.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They totally are the same thing, it's called a Linux Distribution and you run the same exact software that runs on a server. There's not Debian Desktop and Debian Server, it's just one distribution. It's clear you're just looking to be dismissive without really understanding what you're talking about.

It's not like whatever software you can't do your job without would have to be written twice for Linux Servers and Desktops, it's the same thing. Where again is this distinction you're trying to make?

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Debian doesn't make that distinction, but Ubuntu does. And even on the distros that don't, you'd have to be an idioit to deny that the suite of applications desktop users use and the suite of applications you would ever, and I mean ever, deploy on a server have pretty close to zero overlap.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That's great you found a distribution that has two different images, one for desktop and and one for server. Does that mean that the desktop version of Ubuntu isn't a "real" operating system as Polar says? Only the server distribution is a "real" operating system? That was the whole crux of the argument to begin with.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

No, it's saying that your "proof" that Linux is a viable operating system in all spaces simply because it is the primary operating system in the server space is invalid.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is not a very “real” response of you. Your response isn’t applicable to all problem domains. Let’s just keep moving the argument to whatever imaginary boundary fits your personal opinion.

Edit: I’m just as big of an idiot for trying to argue with polar’s toothless and subjective “real” claim as I am with you about some pointless server shit. They all use the same packaged software anyways! 😂

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Literally what? "Linux is good on the desktop because Apache isn't available for Windows" is a non-argument. End users don't care that Linux can run server software, and people who own servers don't care that Linux can run a desktop. The fact that both can use the same kernel, userspace, and package manager does not change the fact that there is a very real dichotomy. You might as well argue that MacOS is good for gaming because it can run productivity software just fine, and the latest Macs have GPUs that are (according to Apple's inscrutable benchmarks, anyway) as good as a midrange NVidia chip.

Authors of server software develop primarily for Linux. This is great, but not especially useful to desktop users, who have no use for server software, and who productivity software developers and game developers frequently ignore. None of that has ANYTHING to do with whether or not Linux is a "real" operating system. What Polar was trying to argue was that Linux is not viable for desktop use since it is rarely if ever considered by authors of software that desktop users actually need.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Take a deep breath, buddy. We’re on programminghumor

[-] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

The distinction I am making is that most software developers don't consider Linux Desktop a real OS, and that's why Linsux nerds are begging for developers to release Linux versions.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Linux isn't trying to compete with Windows for the desktop market. Making fun of it for failing to do that is dishonest at best. It caters to the very specific needs and wants of programmers, and it does that incredibly well. The fact that it can now run some quite high-end art and video production packages is a bonus, and if Linux is one day able to present itself as a viable alternative to Apple's walled garden and Microsoft's data-mining adware, so much the better, but no one with an ounce of sense (coughgardinerbryantcough) would seriously argue that Linux will be ready for mass adoption at any point within the next ten years.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Linux isn’t trying to compete with Windows for the desktop market. Making fun of it for failing to do that is dishonest at best.

~~2001~~ ~~2002~~ ~~2003~~ ~~2004~~ ~~2005~~ ~~2006~~ ~~2007~~ ~~2008~~ ~~2009~~ ~~2010~~ ~~2011~~ ~~2012~~ ~~2013~~ ~~2014~~ ~~2015~~ ~~2016~~ ~~2017~~ ~~2018~~ ~~2019~~ ~~2020~~ ~~2021~~ ~~2022~~ ~~2023~~ 2024 IS THE YEAR OF LINUX!!!!

It caters to the very specific needs and wants of programmers, and it does that incredibly well.

Too bad Linux users don't understand this. Lemmy is full of Linux nerds acting like Linux is a viable replacement to Windows/MacOS, when it's not for the majority of users.

The fact that it can now run some quite high-end art and video production packages is a bonus

Ya, despite the fact Davinci free cannot edit h.264 or h.265 video on Linux, or that neither the free or PAID versions can use AAC audio. Very professional.

but no one with an ounce of sense (coughgardinerbryantcough) would seriously argue that Linux will be ready for mass adoption at any point within the next ten years.

You've guys been saying this for decades lol.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I stand by my point that no one with an ounce of sense will seriously argue that Linux is ready for mass adoption. The extremely vocal minority that does not have an ounce of sense does not invalidate my point.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

So nuanced and articulate

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