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I still maintain that in order to fullfill our commitment to NATO we should get into transport. A lot more demands for air cargo than there is for fighters...
I think the whole Canadian military could use an overhaul. It'd be pretty sweet if the Canadian military specialized in disaster relief, and medical capabilities. Our military could be regularly deployed within our borders for forest fires, hurricanes, and the like. Plus: if we trained a fuck load of medical staff in the military, then they might filter into provincial healthcare systems post-retirement.
Its a little weird to have thousands of people just waiting around for a war to break out.
While I agree, I do also think we need a capable offensive force. The world today seems pretty unstable, and having to rely on our neighbor for our entire security seems a little unwise. Since building out our forces will take decades, we should probably get started on that project now.
Edit: unwise, not inside
Yes. The better the offensive capability the less likely it would be needed.
Why would we want an offensive force? We have enough land as it is and our primary focus should be on soft power (so people don't want to invade us) and defence (so people who try end up bleeding so much it doesn't matter). Canada is uniquely suited for defence in depth given that our key geographical rival (Russia) would have to invade from the North, literally the furthest they could possibly be from key population centers, and that on the off chance that China decides to invade us, they'd have to cross through the Rockies AND the Prairies just to make it even close to the Golden Horseshoe. In fact, I'd actually argue that our key rival in terms of defence should actually be the US: their instability makes it increasingly likely that we may get caught up in a sort of hostile occupation if war should break out and they have the capability to easily strike all main Canadian population centers.
Sorry, I am using the wrong word, "offensive" here, when I meant a defensive force. Basically, enough tanks, planes, or whatever we need for the defense you've mentioned. If we have enough already, great :)
In the situation our rival is the US, I really have trouble us building enough of a defense to do anything but buy time!
The war in Ukraine has shown that NATO doctrine is, frankly, not very good against something even close to a peer force.
Can you expand on this? I thought Russia was doing quite poorly in Ukraine, and in big part thanks to NATO supplies being sent to Ukraine?
Have you been following Ukraine's counteroffensive at all? Despite NATO training and being showered by NATO equipment, Ukraine is incapable of making progress in offensive operations. It's been four months and they've just barely claimed a 10km x 10km area of low ground.
I haven't, but I did read the offensive was slow. I don't know enough about the topic to know whether it's NATO doctrine to blame or not.
Ukrainian soldiers on the front lines have been complaining that NATO doctrine, which relies on complete local superiority, is basically sending them to die when used against a peer force.
NATO doctrine has evolved into one that is really good at fighting insurgents and completely inferior militaries (e.g. Iraq) but has never been good in a peer war. Even historically, this is evident by the Korean War, the Vietnam War, and the War in Afghanistan.
Fascinating. NATO, or specifically the US, does seem quite obsessed with battlefield domination, which I guess it can afford thanks to its present infinite money and oil. Thanks for the insights!
I completely agree, particularly given Canada's defensive environment. Canada has a whole fuck ton of terrain to play with in the event of an invasion, so why not develop the capability for working in that terrain?
Honestly not a bad idea. We still need current gen fighters though.