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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its not really an apology and they are still doing the runtime fee, just with minor tweaks

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I want to start with this: I am sorry.

If that's not an apology, then I don't know what is. I'm not defending them by any means, I've moved my projects away from Unity over to Godot already and am not planning to go back. But you can't argue they haven't apologized. If they proposed their fees in this form right from the beginning, there would probably be no drama at all.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s not an apology. It’s corporate doublespeak.

The exec team, who caused this whole thing, isn’t changing. They will try something similar at some point in the future.

Also, this “apology” entirely omits the scummy and anticompetitive (and potentially illegal in some jurisdictions) fee vouchers they were using to try to steal AppLovin’s customers, as well as the silent and sneaky update they made to their license in the interest of enabling this whole thing.

This is ass-covering and damage control. It is not an apology, regardless of whether or not apologetic words and phrases were used.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Exactly, they're not apologizing for the things people are pissed off at them for. Just trying to downplay their scummy behavior.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I mean, I feel like saying they said the phrase 'I am sorry' makes it true that it is an apology in the most literal sense, but it is sort of an asinine point, in my opinion. The comment you replied to was, from what I read into it, is saying the execs at unity didn't regret their choice, just that they were catching flak. They would absolutely have left the original policy change in place if it wasn't for the fact that it was going to tank their revenue. If they ever felt they could get away with this again at some point in the future, then they absolutely will try this again. It is a good victory for those who called them out, but they are not sorry that they tried and probably will try similar things in the future.

To me, it helps to think of corporate America as an abuser (because they are). Sure, the abuser can say I'm sorry again and again every time they harm you, but at what point is it not really an apology? If they keep trying (and often succeeding) in doing it, then at, some point, I think I wouldn't be satisfied with a hollow gesture.