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Linus' thread: (CW: bigotry and racism in the comments) https://social.kernel.org/notice/AWSXomDbvdxKgOxVAm (you need to scroll down, i can't seem to link to the comment in the screenshot)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I don't see how his, very reasonable, views makes Linux itself (more?) political. What is the point of this post?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I don’t think the title is good, but I do think it’s notable to some extent. With people having weird, shitty opinions, it’s nice to see someone who is relatively famous in the tech community for having somewhat sane opinions and being vocal about it.

In my experience, the Linux community has got its own bunch of free speech weirdos who would reject some of these political points (especially the trans position), so I do think in that context it is kind of important.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Gloating? Complaining? I thought the FOSS community has matured past "creator's views = views of everyone who uses their creation", honestly. And isn't Linus supporting the Democratic party already well known?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The man can say what he wants and it's nothing to do with Linux. And, his gun stance seems fair to me. I think he is an intelligent man, and I think he's allowed to say his thoughts without some lame arse trying to tie his ideals to the OS. Move on, nothing to see here.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is exactly what I was thinking as well. Why is it so hard for folks to separate what someone creates from the creator? If we found out the person who created, say, the bandaid, was a militant Nazi homophobe who advocated for marriage at the age of 6, should we feel guilty every time we need to cover a cut or scrape?

Personally, I don't know much at all about Linus, what he prefers for breakfast, whether he wears slippers in the house or goes barefoot, and so on. He could staunchly advocate that my country do away with its present form of government and declare him dictator for life for all I care.

I like Linux. I use Linux. It gets the job done. End of story.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Giving a medical example for comparison is spot-on since a lot of our knowledge about human body actually comes from experiments done by nazis :)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've seen people on other sites malding about how this proves linux and the GPL are communist. I suppose it's important to know just what those people are melting down about this week.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Surely that already happened in the Code of Conduct drama a few years back? Or the "Linus is rude and difficult to work with" callout even before that?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, there was drama here yesterday about Lemmy's creator and maintainer being a tankie or whatever and one person trying to say "Lemmy bad" because of that.

This post doesn't seem to be here by coincidence.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This post doesn’t seem to be here by coincidence.

As the person who posted the original post: i don't like/trust tankies and them being tankies is one of the reason i deleted my lemmy.ml account.

My impression is that Linus also doesn't speak in his post about tankies, but instead i think the word "communist" is equal to some general leftist.

But i kind of agree, that this post can be seen as "in support of tankies". hmm.

my impression is, furthermoore: because the more tankie politics is on lemmygrad.ml, an instance which is easily blocked, it is not that bad / could be worse. I kind of hope instances like beehaw.org have the most users someday, because they are really awesome i think

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I just want lemmygrad defederated. I geniuinely thought the whole instance is satire but holy hell