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The historic UAW strike puts an exclamation point on more than a decade of efforts by Washington lawmakers to narrow the pay gap between top executives and workers.

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[–] [email protected] 134 points 1 year ago (3 children)

And between 1978 and 2021, executive compensation at large American companies increased by more than 1,400 percent, the left-leaning Economic Policy Institute said.

This is really the problem. No one can convince me that being a CEO is 1400% more difficult now.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Had the shower-thought today: there are not enough reports of CEO suicides. Like, I assume the thing they’ll tell you about their job is that it’s hard to handle the stress of holding so many people’s livelihoods in your hands. But I don’t ever see CEOs getting fired for too many layoffs, and when they do get fired it kinda doesn’t matter because they’re so rich it doesn’t matter much. If it were true that it’s a difficult thing to handle, in any way that at all relates to the working class struggle, you think it’d have a high suicide rate. But it doesn’t…

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Jobs aren't paid based on how difficult or stressful they are

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well they're certainly not based on what value they bring, either, except maybe to themselves and the ever-useless shareholders.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If the people paying did not believe they were getting their money's worth, they would stop paying that much. The problem is, the ceiling is set by whoever can realistically pay the most.

My entire point is that CEOs are obviously overvalued, due to the ability of extremely large firms to pay exorbitant salaries via stock. This creates a negative ripple downstream that hurts a lot of smaller businesses.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If the people paying did not believe they were getting their money’s worth, they would stop paying that much.

No they wouldn't. They're the same people as get paid that much elsewhere. They have no incentive to lower the bar.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're mixing up who is offering what

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, I'm not. Who do you imagine sets CEO pay?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Competing firms and to a lesser extent the CEOs themselves, all have input. It's a market.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's nothing like a market. Who do you imagine the individuals are who set the CEOs pay, and how do you think their pay is decided?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Generally, but not always, the board will set a price range for CEOS. In smaller firms, the C-suite or President will, in some rarer cases the owner will have sole vote.

You seem to think CEOs dictate their own wages, which makes no sense. That's not how getting a job works.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Exactly

Furthermore, the boards themselves typically include fellow C-Suite executives, leading to elite back-scratching as well as a never-ending upward spiral of executive compensation as companies compare their CEO salaries to others.

They're not incentivised to get the best value for money. They're setting the benchmarks by which their own pay is decided.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is that why doctor are so under paid/s they aren't based on skill or education?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Doctors are highly paid because they are scarce. You'll note that surgeons in the UK, as an example, make about a third or less of what a US surgeon makes.

Our residency system, coincidentally, induces artificial scarcity of doctors