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BEIJING, Sept 13 (Reuters) - China announced details of its plan to turn coastal Fujian province into a zone for integrated development with Taiwan, touting benefits from increased cross-strait cooperation including financial market initiatives.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is some bipolar shit. One second shooting missiles at you and proclaiming that you will take Taiwan by force if necessary, next second talking about co-operation and mutual benefit. At least the CCP is transparent about their end goals I guess. Also, fuck the CCP.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hasn't the US clearly established the waters around Taiwan being international waters subject to FONOPs and explicitly not territorial waters outside of the 12km limit?

China and Taiwan are aligned in their EEZ/territorial claims in the region (all the way down to the Spratly and Paracel Islands), so these missile launches would constitute only firing missiles from one point in their EEZ to another point in their EEZ without passing over airspace defined by territorial waters boundaries... Which, since as we've already established aren't territorial waters, is perfectly legal in the rules-based system.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not the legality that bothers me.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Oh, so it's a feels-based international order?

Until China and Taiwan deviate in their territorial claims, these operations are no less valid and no more provocative than the US sailing warships through the strait and conducting military exercises in the China/Taiwan EEZ claim.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago

Doesn't Taiwan claim that they are the real China and have territorial claims on the mainland?