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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.
AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)
This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.
[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]
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I'm gonna give partial credit to the comments for pointing out that rugby/football, boxing, MMA, and violent video games all already exist and are generally available throughout rich democracies. However, I will only award full credit for a refutation of the idea that competitive violence is innate to men.
Top comment nails it
I realize this isn't your post, but
I think lots of us just enjoy the game.
The thought about revealed preferences is bang on though.
But if there isn't a clearly defined end goal/utility function, then how can will I fit this information into my rationalist ~~fanfic~~ world model?
/unsneer though the comment was overall sobering to read, it's good to know that not everyone on that site is insane.
Dangerously close to self burn, as rats don't want to debate or even be correct, they want that smug sense of superiority that comes from feeling right
roller derby (as popular in the last decade and a bit) is the first (albeit not only[0]) thing that comes to mind
[0] - over here in ZA, women's rugby teams (and in other sports) are plentiful, and they do not fuck around
Analogs of Colloseum in MMA and video games exist, but they are not "real" enough for some people. In fact, the Colloseum is not big enough for some people, they want a bigger fight and glory. Like a war.
So while the article raises interesting points it's really proposing only half measures.
Of course, big conventional war is destructive, self-defeating, and cruel so it's no good.
So what I propose is to direct the drive for adventure into facing the "real" of learning and creating the way technology and science does it. I wish I learned how to communicate the heroic nature of this quest .