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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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Do Novelists Need to Worry About AI? (In which I rant for entirely too long about Yudkowsky and his ilk.) (www.reddit.com)

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TL;DR:

I rant a bunch about how the silly eschatology of Yudkowsky and his cult have been hijacked by monopolistic corporate goons to push generative AI. Figured y'all might be interested.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I didn't actually have that much thoughts sorry, I was making a fermats last theorem joke.

And im not sure how much the mods want to change it into a support group. I thankfully never could really fall into the Rationalists as I live in The Netherlands, it did give me brainrot on certain subjects, enough for people to start mentioning that I sometimes defend weird things, and that was one of the many things which got me into becoming a little bit more critical of the movement. (that and well, reading and interacting with slatestarcodex reddit people, at least I got out before they created themotte). There are also enough people here (or at least there were on reddit not sure if they jumped over) who were onto the Rationalists from the start due to badphil stuff.

So, guess I do have thoughts. It should probably be both here, a sort of support network and a 'lol ow god, get over highschool' place. Bit like how reddit was. And on reddit even after we got more and more people following, the amount of brigading going on was pretty low.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And im not sure how much the mods want to change it into a support group.

i mean, not really? while i don't want to be needlessly cruel to recent leavers, and we can and have helped, that's not why sneerclub exists. that said, there's nowhere else, so they're gonna end up here anyway. so i guess don't be unfairly cruel. just fairly cruel.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah being a full-on support group sounds EXHAUSTING. But we definitely already fulfilled that role to a small extent for a small number of people, especially back on Reddit where this space and rationalist spaces were more porous?

And I'm all for just cruelty to the eugenicists, neoreactionaries, and other nasties of the Rationalist movement. They have MORE than earned it. Something something Karl Popper's Paradox of Tolerance something something.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh damn that's actually pretty good, I'm sad I didn't get the joke. (Lots of jokes sail over my head. I'm very literal much of the time, hah.)

I was in the States, so I was more at risk- but I'm a huge science nerd, enough that Yudkowsky's anti-science crap tossed up a BUNCH of red flags for me, and convinced me to start seriously researching the Rationalists and looking for critics.

Yeah it's interesting to see which of the regulars from Reddit transfer over or not. Took me months, and it was researching for this essay among old Sneerclub posts that inspired the switch.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Don't worry about not getting the joke, you need to have heard of it, and need to have remembered it. I just recall it because people told me a story about the joke being written on a toilet door somewhere. (even nerd toilet graffiti is deeply cringe in a way).