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[–] [email protected] 163 points 1 year ago (6 children)

“If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism, they will abandon democracy.” - David Frum

We are here, folks. They are planning civil war if they don’t win an election already rigged in their favor.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's been clear for a while IMHO. They are just starting to say it louder for the benefit of the dumber counterparts among them (aka the greater majority of trumps non 1% base).

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They can try. Were it to come to that, they are badly outgunned and outnumbered.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They seem to think they’re the only ones with guns or are the only ones who know how to use them.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

The ones I know on the left that have em don't talk about them much (or act psycho or make it their identity or whatever else).

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Also they seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of how wars are fought and won. It almost never comes down to bullets. It comes down to communication, supply lines, tactics, and information. 1000 bullets aren't worth jack if you don't know where their artilary is being launched from.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I believe them. I don't think anyone here shouting "bring it" is actually ready to fight a war.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Probably not, but neither are the right either lol

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only if the police and military don't side with them... and there is a rage against the machine song that comes to mind about that.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The police are bastards but the military will side with whatever side doesn't insight violence. That's not the Republicans.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

There were definitely a lot of military people amongst the Jan 6 insurrection. Plus we have footage of law enforcement letting them in.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Watching "Shiny Happy People" gave me an idea how frighteningly organized conservatives are. Not Trump and his lackeys, but the larger christian right.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I feel like they are better prepared than we give them credit for. The true powers are happy to let the Ya'llqaida run their mouths and wander around in Walmart camo looking ridiculous, because it makes the rest of us discredit them. But the real threat is very strong, very powerful, and very hidden. I was raised conservative Christian. I was raised under a lot of the same beliefs as the fucking cult in Shiny Happy People. I went to camp at one of the universities that they are apparently organizing conservative youth to go into politics with the purpose of taking over. I didn't know about any of it, I'd never heard the name of that cult before or that any of it was happening, that's how well it is hidden. I think that they are so good at sliding under the surface that you can be so close to it and never know it's there meanwhile they are paying off people and getting policies made and controlling the world however they see fit. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That’s who they call the silent majority

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

It will shock you when you learn how well funded many are too. People need to stop thinking of insurrectionists as hobbyist hillbillies with shotguns. A lot of them are full on paramilitary groups.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

We are here, folks. They are planning civil war if they don’t win an election already rigged in their favor.

Fuck 'em.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

You said it so well. No sarcasm

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Civil war, smedley butler, we come here about every hundred years or so.