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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

/s is an excellent modifier for sarcasm. There's no tone in text and bold/italic can only do so much. And with how many absolute crackpots are posting all over the internet, I'd prefer to be sure to not lump in a jokester with the absolute nutjobs.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Also helpful for people with trouble reading tone in text cuz of things like autism.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

...and writing tone... for the same reasons. 😬

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It wouldn't be the first time I get myself into a trouble because of that :(

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s the only legitimate defense for having to tag your sarcasm I’ve ever read.

Back in MY DAY, nobody tagged their sarcasm on BBS or IRC and we ALL UNDERSTOOD AAAAA (but srsly for folks who have trouble with tone you’re fully right.)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What are you talking about? Even usenet in the 80s recommended using emoticons to mark sarcasm/joking remarks.

Avoid sarcasm and facetious remarks.

Without the voice inflection and body language of personal communication these are easily misinterpreted. A sideways smile, :-), has become widely accepted on the net as an indication that "I'm only kidding". If you submit a satiric item without this symbol, no matter how obvious the satire is to you, do not be surprised if people take it seriously.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

This. I remember having a text file of emoticons back in the day because I couldn't remember what they were supposed to mean (and often didn't mean what I thought). :-/

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

That’s a valid point! I forgot now many emoticons I’d use back then. I’ve always hated pointing out my sarcasm using extra things, though… I prefer to do it using italics, which is reeeeal helpful on Reddit where it goes over nobody’s heads at all.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

As someone with autism, I’m here to say that it is actually the opposite of helpful.

People need challenges in order to grow. They need opportunities to fail.

Putting training wheels on sarcasm makes autistic people even further behind the social curve by depriving us of opportunities to fail.

Much like a sterile childhood environment has been scientifically proven to be a causal factor in developing allergies as an adult, I predict that science will eventually establish a causal link between lack of ambiguous communication during developmental years, and reduced intelligence in life.

Human society is so fucking hard to understand for an autistic person, and I really appreciate your looking out for me, but the struggle is worth it, and human culture is intricate and beautiful, and that’s why I chose this username.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You misunderstand, this is from my own perspective as an autistic person. Plus, the lack of tone of voice over text can make communication harder, for everyone. It’s literally just a tool for communication, clearing up what you mean.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

But that's the point of sarcasm. Jonathan Swift got lots of death threats by mail after writing "A Modest Proposal," and he expected it! If someone doesn't want to risk being misunderstood, they should not write the opposite of what they mean.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Okay but lots of other autistic people I know really appreciate tone indicators so you cannot really speak for everyone. Not to mention, why does knowing that something was meant to be sarcastic hinder learning instead of essentially guessing?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How ever did autistic people survive before the internet to help them cope?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean a lot of neurodivergent people literally didn't survive until a few decades ago

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well that's a massively gross exaggeration.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To me it's born out of this moment: "Wait, will someone see this joke and think I'm serious? If they did they'd think I'm a psycho..."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

People on Reddit are scared of downvotes affecting their karma score, so they have to tag controversial comments to make it absolutely clear if their comment is sarcasm.