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With the 2024 presidential race beginning to unfold, Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont said he believes that President Joe Biden will again earn the Democratic nomination — and the president likely win reelection if he runs on a strong progressive campaign.

"I think at this moment ... we have got to bring the progressive community together to say, you know what, we're going to fight for a progressive agenda but we cannot have four more years of Donald Trump in the White House," Sanders said Sunday on "Face the Nation."

Sanders endorsed Mr. Biden in April. Sanders referenced several of those issues in underscoring what he believes is the importance of building "a strong progressive agenda" to win the presidency in 2024.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If it was trump v Bernie we would still have president trump right now. I’m in GA and there is basically not a single Bernie voter here. And as we all know ours and other swing states were key.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Except all polls showed the exact opposite. But keep dreaming I guess

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd like to see the polls you found. I usually go to Five Thirty Eight for their polls, because they have a lot there. They do tend to go down as center left, and I'd like to see other polling agencies, especially those that focus on the socialist side of things

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was nearly unanimous amongst the polls. Nate Silver is an absolute moron lol. Not that him being an idiot directly means his polling is trash. This guy made one prediction correctly, got famous for it, and now think he's fucking nastrodamus, spewing the dumbest assed takes. he's the definition of the saying "scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Biden also wins around the same against Trump according to RCP polling aggregation. Really nice site though I'll definitely look at it. Not sure why you think Nate Silver is a fascist though. He isn't a pundit, more so just a statistics nerd. If anything the Five thirty-eight team is against Trump, who is the fascist American's pick.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Biden also wins around the same against Trump

Okay. What's your point? Does it have anything to do with the discussion around the population of americans that want progressive policy?

When Bernie was a threat, Nate Silver and lots of liberals were saying shit like they'd vote for trump over bernie, or just simply not vote if bernie was the nominee. They'll side with fascists against if they think progressive will threaten their power

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah I forgot about the context. Bernie Sanders could definitely win against Trump

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To those types, because liberals aren't doing enough in their eyes to oppose the fascists, the quote of sitting at a table with fascists applies, which means all liberals are fascists too

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Then all communists and socialists are Fascist also. Mussolini was an ardent socialist before being a fascist, and indeed still considered himself a Socialist. Joseph Stalin signed the Molotov-Ribbontrop pact with Adolph Hitler, who was a thug for the Marxists before starting his National Socialist Workers Party. The Conservatives who value the appeal of Strength that Fascist thinkers call out with also fall prey to Fascism

Indeed the Liberal Government of the United States subverted governments to install Fascist governments in South America such as the government under Pinochet. You and I both have the potential to be Fascist. I do not think that Nate Silver is any more of a Fascist than you or me, simply because he doesn't shout from the street corners about the evils of Fascism.