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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

They're pushing some crazy conspiracy theories.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone

I hope they crash and burn... Far left! Pah, these people are nothing but far from sane.

EDIT: Lol at all the russian disinformants in the replies. Wikipedia literally references tens of articles that were conspiracy theories. "without evidence" only works if you're blind. Also weird that the website only lists anti-ukrainian articles....

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't quite get how supporting Russia would ever be considered left wing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Russia is strongly associated with communism in many people's minds. Including many Russians'.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

That's pretty ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

That wiki page is hilarious. The cite for the claim greyzone is misinformation is a paper that offhandedly and without evidence says that grey zone is misleading people.

Actually most of the cites are "people are saying' levels of evidence. Wikipedia is a joke.

If you wanted to claim that greyzone was " sympathetic to authoritarian régimes" or "denied genocide" then you could just link directly to the greyzone to show what they're doing, but instead they wiki authors have decided to cite articles the obliquely mention these claims. Its the equivalent of writing a ransom note with magazine clippings but with citations.

I suspect they avoid linking directly because GZ articles are usually well sourced and have nuances that don't support the wiki author's bs.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I suspect they avoid linking directly because GZ articles are usually well sourced and have nuances that don't support the wiki author's bs.

This is exactly it, but not directly. Grayzone is forbidden from being used as a source on Wikipedia for this reason.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Its weird that youd lie considering their front page is full of charged wording and conspiracy level articles. Not to mention wikipedia CITES everything. "No evidence" only works if you're blind. I suppose you're one of the authors lol.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah sure just go ahead link me the articles you take umbrage with and why.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't see how the things reported on that page could be considered "left"

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago

They just are so far left they came out on the right again

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

List the conspiracy theories you think are "crazy"