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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (14 children)

How to make people care, though

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Unless they sort out their funding (find someone that is not Google for majority of their money), people shouldn't care.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I don't understand. You think people shouldn't care about privacy? You think people shouldn't care about one or two massive corporations having complete control over the internet?

Explain.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think his point is that as long as Google is the primary funding source for Mozilla it's not worth relying on Firefox because there's always the risk Google will demand Mozilla capitulates and tows the line. Once/If Mozilla secure independent funding then they can be 'trusted'

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Oh, I see. For some reason, I thought they were referring to content creators and others who profit from Google ads or something like that.

And yeah, there's a lot that Mozilla's corporate branch needs to sort out, but Firefox and its forks are the only viable alternatives to chromium browsers right now, so people should still care about that.

"Perfection is the enemy of progress" ... or something like that

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

🤔 So why can't we just make our own browser then?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Making a browser isn't terribly hard, and there's dozens of 'browsers' (see nyxt, qutebrowser, vimb, brave, vivaldi, etc). Making a browser engine is hard, and expensive, which is why all of the alternatives i've used are either chromium or webkit based. The webkit ones seem to crash on anything with complex javascript. The chromium engine ones work great, however that doesn't stop Google from making changes to the engine which people are up in arms about.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Browser engines are very, very, very, very very hard to make and maintain.

See: Opera and Microsoft Edge, which formerly ran on bespoke engines until they converted to Chromium because no one would support their browser.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It doesn't matter, we literally have no choice. We either accomplish something very hard in our lives or suffer. And life is very very unkind to the indolent and downtrodden.

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