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Saw that one post (unfortunately). How come people who spread content like that in the "open" internet (not darkweb) don't get arrested?
I hardly know anything about the subject of the dark web, but my take is, they operate from the dark web. They open temporary email accounts, then free computing or free hosting accounts, or are part of a bot net. The rest is relatively easy.
Law enforcement monitors the dark web, though, so if they make a stupid move (and they will), they will eventually get caught.
God I hope they get caught.
Will they though? Not necessarily, as no police department can do anything about state terrorism. If Russian hackers attack Western infrastructure, the FBI or whoever cannot go there and arrest them.
I was talking about domestic crimes. But sure, you're correct, unless it's considered an act of war.
They would need to be reported with some credible and actionable evidence to the appropriate authorities. Just having the material they are posting isn't enough. If they are taking precautions, it's gonna be hard to figure out who and where they are from what the site would be able to log while they use it.
The legal system also takes time. The material could be disseminated fairly widely before an investigation would be started and completed. Especially with bots. Hundreds of bots are a lot faster than a team of humans.
GET OUT THE 4CHAN
I'm in the US and grew up here. My dad is a piece of shit pedophile who exploited me for several websites. None on darkweb but at the time, they didn't really need to be.
Word got out and cops came to interrogate ME the person who was the victim in this situation. They also blamed me for what was going on (how? I don't know, I was a teen who was being exploited underage but cops gonna cop) and they basically intimidated me into dropping out of school and taking the blame for my dad because the other option was that I be sent to a home as an orphan.
My dad got away with a slap on the wrist basically because cops in the US don't do their job. They even cover for people. I ended up literally running away from home.
I think the issue is that people see this topic as all outrage - I mean, look at the comments here. Everyone is so mad they can't even think straight. And I'm personally noticing that some of the outrage doesn't even seem to be directed at the right people. Like everyone is super willing to shit on pedos left and right but I wonder if they would be willing to listen to someone who has been knee deep in this shit before and were innocent because they were being exploited by a pedophile.
Like a lot of comments say "disgusting" but then don't say anything about how the person that it happened to must feel. Everyone's upset they saw something but they don't seem to be upset about who they saw it happening to.
Like I wonder who they think hurts more in this situation. The person who was made into a victim or the people who just saw it happen.
First, thank you for your comment and I'm glad you posted it.
Second, I want to take a moment to clarify what people mean when they say "disgusting" - at least for me - it's not a matter of "oh my god I saw something awful, my day is ruined, that's disgusting", it's instead "oh my god I can't believe that happened, that's disgusting". The nuance is that the "disgust" is against the people who allowed it to happen - The perpetrators, the cops who did nothing, the people who shared it, and the world that allowed it to happen.
Again, thank you for sharing your story, it's a great reminder of what the actual issue at hand is. Much love!
Exactly, that was my point. People are upset with the perpetrators - and no one really seems to be empathizing with the victims.
I'm sorry for your experience and I hope you're doing better now. It's very important to note that the major victims in this "attack" are absolutely the abused children. That's exactly what makes this the most disgusting attack on Lemmy to date.
Just had like 90 (probably unrelated) arrests in one state in Germany. There are just way too man to arrest them all.
Darkweb as a proxy to the clear web. Its a ligitimate tool used for horriffic things somtimes. Tor is a huge double edge sword.
If these people were distrobuting, the most open stratigy would hide in plain sight. Like say the dark corners of some well known mainstream, but negligent social media site. These people are here to terrorize.
Usually they do, eventually (even on the darkweb).
Though it does take time to pin them down sometimes because many criminals take steps to hide their identities and make it very difficult.
Lots of people though are caught easily and quickly, hopefully these guys will be like that and will get caught quickly and put away for good.