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Pope Francis condemned the "very strong, organised, reactionary attitude" in the US church and said Catholic doctrine allows for change over time.

Pope Francis has blasted the “backwardness” of some conservatives in the US Catholic Church, saying they have replaced faith with ideology and that a correct understanding of Catholic doctrine allows for change over time.

Francis’ comments were an acknowledgment of the divisions in the US Catholic Church, which has been split between progressives and conservatives who long found support in the doctrinaire papacies of St John Paul II and Benedict XVI, particularly on issues of abortion and same-sex marriage.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Has he met the Catholic Church?

Inquisitions? Witch burning? Who does he think did extremism biggest and best?

Sure, now they mostly just coverup for paedophiles and rampant baby murder at orphanages, but they were the OG extremists, let’s not kid ourselves.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Vatican_Council

He's telling people to have this same level of introspection. It's really not complex or hypocritical.

This Pope has also tried a number of serious reforms within the Catholic Church so trying to paint him as hypocritical is pretty tough

https://www.ncronline.org/opinion/guest-voices/pope-francis-new-vatican-doctrinal-chief-signals-enormous-change-catholic

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My conservative Catholic family thinks the current Pope is a plant by the liberals, so he must be doing something right in my book.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The pope: "maintaining rigid and unchanging ideology is bad and room for change and growth must be allowed"

You: "um excuse me but hundreds of years ago the church killed people"

The church sucks ass but this is the absolute worst take regarding this specific post.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not hundreds of years ago. Maybe my sarcasm didn’t come across through text, but their atrocities are still being uncovered from only a couple of decades ago, and they’re still committing atrocities on a slightly smaller scale today (though I’m sure their victims – still alive today – would argue they’re not lesser).

The Catholic Church doesn’t have a leg to stand on here, and it’s gross that they’re pretending they do.

e: didn’t close my brackets

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Did you... even read the text outside of the title?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They were also a huge player in the residential "schools" of North America, which was one of the major ways the Indigenous genocide was conducted.