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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This was the case before countries existed. The territories used to be limited to how far the human cattle could walk, be productive and walk back home in day.

Freedom is only possible where the possibility of encountering other humans is negligible.

Whenever humans aglomerate, non productive humans require handouts to live. If they do not receive then they die. If they don't want to die, they will steal. If the other humans resist, there will be a struggle and whoever wins becomes the state.

I think keeping population below 1 per square kilometer and spread out is the best solution to the state predation problem.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Whenever humans aglomerate, non productive humans require handouts to live. If they do not receive then they die. If they don’t want to die, they will steal.

Yeah, we know, politicians.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

You got it, the mediators between us and them. See Europe and their history with romas people, for what it looks like when this peace breaks down.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

1 per square kilometer is physically impossible unless you plan on finding a way to kill 7.9 billion people.

Earth has 146 million square kilometers of land.

It's a neat idea but I think "the largest genocide in the history of humanity" kinda outweighs your solution.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

About 64 million square km is habitable. Everyone stop having babies until we reach this number. That's how we can have a stateless borderless utopia.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You won't see it in your lifetime. About 150,000 people die a day assuming no natural disasters or disease. 7.9 billion / 150,000 = 52,666 days. About 144 years for your dream.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm fine to plant the idea of a borderless countryless stateless world without war even if I never sit in its shade

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Can't tell whether sarcasm or high.