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Fuck Hexbear for agreeing the word is racist and shouldn't be used going forward?
I get the feeling you completely ignored the point if my comment and likely aren't arguing in good faith, but fuck it, I'll bite:
Nah, fuck hexbear for getting offended on the behalf of others. If I saw asian-americans consistently getting offended by it then I'd feel differently because sometimes when you're in a marginalized community you need a signal boost; but in this case most people don't know and/or don't care, including a lot of asian-americans.
The context behind this view is that I'm a member of the LGBT community, and the number of times I've seen people get offended on our behalf regarding things we don't really care about is way too high, especially when it comes to members voluntarily using anti-lgbt slurs, either as an ironic statement or in an attempt to own them. Just because a word has a racist history doesn't mean it can't change.
Additionally, fuck hexbear in general for being tankies and using the LGBT community as a shield (among other things, like "brigading" meta posts in other instances that have anything to do with them, despite their own instance admins telling them not to). I dunno if you missed the drama, but they decided to beef with the owners of Blahaj.zone and then tried to claim that hexbear was LGBT-friendly and that blahaj.zone members were basically suffering from Stockholm syndrome whenever anyone tried to criticize them.
Iirc blahaj.zone's admins are both trans-women who created the instance to be an LGBT safe space.
That incident alone severely damaged my opinion of hexbear. At first they were just annoying, but that made me hate them.
There's clearly a time and place to say fuck Hexbear, but them standing up for minority communities isn't it.
You're of the opinion that people didn't know and so it's okay. But it's not, the second even one person explains, that's when you say shit my bad. I used to use terms a lot which people deemed offensive and I stopped when I learned better. There's places in America where they still think it's normal to use the n-word in reference to black people and that's never okay and never will be okay. We learn things and move forward.
Personally, if I have a choice over this issue, I'm standing with the anti-racists rather than the racists who are demanding the right to use a slur.
No, just fuck Hexbear in general. Not having the worst possible take on every issue doesn't mean you don't suck ass.
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