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Inside the AI Porn Marketplace Where Everything and Everyone Is for Sale (www.404media.co)
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Each of these reads like an extremely horny and angry man yelling their basest desires at Pornhub’s search function.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Public domain absolutely exists in the EU.

What you mean is that someone can't passively waive their rights in (most parts of) the EU. When copyright expires, the work is pretty public domain. And the EU recognises public domain from other jurisdiction. It also perfectly allows someone to license a work however they like, while retaining that copyright. Regardless of how a creator allows a work to be used, the work is still their work.

AI bots never had rights to waive. Their work is not their work.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

AI bots never had rights to waive. Their work is not their work.

This is only partially true. In the US (which tends to set the tone on copyright, but other jurisdictions will weigh in over time) generative AI cannot be considered an "author." That doesn't mean that other forms of rights don't apply to AI generated works (for example, AI generated works may be treated as trade secrets and probably will be accepted for trademark purposes).

Also, all of the usual transformations which can take work from the public domain and result in a new copyrightable derivative also apply.

This is a much more complex issue than just, "AI bots never had rights to waive."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Public domain absolutely exists in the EU.

Hmm. There was some kind of issue with that in the EU that led to the creation of a Creative Commons license, IIRC. Maybe nonstandardized handling of stuff not under copyright. I remember that in the US, putting something in the public domain wasn't an issue, but in at least some of the EU, it was important to use Creative Commons instead.

I think that something not being under copyright isn't analogous everywhere.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public-domain-equivalent_license

In 2009, Creative Commons released CC0, which was created for compatibility with jurisdictions where dedicating to public domain is problematic, such as continental Europe.[citation needed] This is achieved by a public-domain waiver statement and a fall-back all-permissive license, for cases where the waiver is not valid.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

yeah, you can't give up some right on your work like paternity in the eu. but the public domain applies to everything that has been there for long enough (70 years after the authors death in france for example)