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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Me, looking for a single communist country.

I hate being that person but communism has essentially been exclusively used as a campaign promise by corrupt/evil groups attempting to seize power from the population.

Broadly speaking, people don't understand communism and assume it just means "you own nothing and share everything. And starve."

Just like people argue that crony capitalism isn't capitalism, totalitarian communism isn't communism. Corruption is the real problem.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem isn't really "corruption", but systens which allow and even encourage corrupt actions.

That's why these countries turned into totalitarian hell holes, the system was set up for a small group of people to rule over everyone else.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Corruption is the real problem and all systems must develop a tolerance of it to some degree.

It seems to me, when looking at the history of communism, that it has a particularly low tolerance for corruption and that things go to shit quick.

It's not that true communism hasn't existed, it's that it simply cannot exist.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's like a shitty cake recipe that looks good on TikTok, you can tell me how great the cake looks all day, but I saw you add a cup of salt to the batter

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here I go fixing communism again...

First up, just because it hasn't worked, there's no reason it can't work - or is there? I'm all ears. You missed that bit.

Beyond that, the most common issue is the fact that communism is typically achieved abruptly, with little to no pre-work. If you don't address the centralisation of wealth (and by extension, political influence), of course power is going to collapse back into authoritarian hellishness.

Transition via social democracy, taxing away the inequality, getting the populace on board with world-class social services, providing more services over time, as you transition from worker representation on boards and equity stakes to full worker ownership and workplace democracy over time.

Taking the benefits of the people fuelling the economy - workers, and handing it to wealthy shareholders that contribute nothing as they consolidate into monopolies, creating market failure in an economy fundamentally built on markets makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. There's a better way - it just takes a bit of work.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are correct, but that is because no one has ever applied communism IRL as it should be. It has always come along with a dictatorship type of leadership sadly.