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This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.

Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.

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The Human Ecology of Overshoot: Why a Major ‘Population Correction’ Is Inevitable (www.mdpi.com)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You have a reasonable argument, but then the solution should be to stop all fossil fuel consumption except for the production of life-sustaining products, like food.

According to this link, food production accounts for only 26% of total carbon output. There we go, problem solved. We can cut total carbon output by 74% and still produce the same amount of food.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I didn’t say there was a solution. Stopping fossil fuels, along with plummeting quality of life, means less global dimming, which would accelerate our impending BOE, and the loss of albedo from that would further accelerate warming. We’re way past any possibility of a solution.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I wasn't even aware of those details, even though I share the feeling that we're past any possibility of a solution. I want to believe that there is a chance and not be a doomer and give up, but it's hard. I hope we're wrong. :(

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

Hahahahaha oh man you are just mentally imprisoning yourself for no reason

Resource consumption is not a linear function of population you complete dunderhead 🤣