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Germany set to miss net zero by 2045 target as climate efforts falter (www.reuters.com)

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They literally have a graph showing their paris accord goal as of now, where they as of now, and a 1.5c goal. They and India are ahead.

Also

China’s emissions are nearing their peak, years ahead of when China’s government had pledged to reach that goal.

Every country has different pledge responsibilities it would be drastically unfair to ask more of developing countries to reduce at the same rate as non, especially taking into account the looting the west has done and the offshored emissions on their behalf.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm not anti-China. I'm just pro-clarity.

When someone says "China has absolutely not met the Paris accord goals" and you respond "New York times reported China is ahead of pledges", it creates the impression that you are correcting the former statement with a contradictory source. The source is not actually contradictory, however, because it explicitly affirms the original point.

They literally have a graph showing their paris accord goal as of now, where they as of now, and a 1.5c goal. They and India are ahead.

That is excellent. I'm very pleased to hear this. Perhaps you could share that graph next time instead?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's in the article.

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How is your reading comprehension so poor?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This graph, correct?

A graph of China's emissions over time. It shows three indicators relative to today. The first indicator is China's projected 2030 emissions (approx. -5%). The second indicator is China's target 2030 emissions (approx. -3%). The final indicator shows the reduction necessary to achieve the Paris Climate 1.5C 2030 goal (approx. -50%)

It doesn't seem much closer to the blue Paris Accord goal compared with any of the other graphs in the same article, as far as I can tell.

A graph of U.S. emissions over time. It shows three indicators relative to today. The first indicator is the U.S. projected 2030 emissions (approx. -15%). The second indicator is the U.S. target 2030 emissions (approx. -35%). The final indicator shows the reduction necessary to achieve the Paris Climate 1.5C 2030 goal (approx. -65%) A graph of E.U. emissions over time. It shows three indicators relative to today. The first indicator is the E.U. projected 2030 emissions (approx. -15%). The second indicator is the E.U. target 2030 emissions (approx. -35%). The final indicator shows the reduction necessary to achieve the Paris Climate 1.5C 2030 goal (approx. -70%)

As for India, I don't see how beating a goal of **+**25% emissions with +20% is any cause for celebration. I actually agree with you and the article when you say that they don't need to be held to the same standard as fully developed economies, but in that case we probably shouldn't be talking about them at all when it comes to meeting emissions reduction goals.