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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (5 children)

"...the first rule of MAGA is to never, ever, under any circumstances, admit that liberals might be right about something."

People in cults stay in them for the same reasons. So many times, they were told they were wrong, that they couldn't take the embarrassment of making such a mistake.

Maybe MAGA people need to be coddled a bit. Tell them that Trump changed towards the end. They were right, but he betrayed them in the end. Something else should be tried. Many of these people are dangerous in the mental state their in.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe. But this just kicks the can down the road. They'll do the same shit with a new messiah figure as soon as they find one that can string two words together and make them feel like they're virtuous for their hatred.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's inevitable. There is no solution to the problem.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Ultimately, it's because we let them get away with a literal civil war. Here in 2023, almost every protection put in place after the civil war has eroded to nothingness, and they/their ancestors weren't held accountable, and have been allowed to lie a false narrative into being for almost two centuries.

They've told us they still view this as a civil war. I wonder when enough normal people will believe them.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Mollycoddling them is what caused the problem in the first place. They need to be forced to accept responsibility for the choices they made even if it hurts them. Them entrenching themselves out of embarrassment is a moral failing on their part, not ours.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They need to be forced to accept responsibility

I won't hold my breath.

The only solution is the California model: vote them into powerlessness. They'll never change. Just leave them to their impotent rage while the rest of us move on.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

You forget that California actually allows for a fair amount of direct democracy - the South will cling to Republican government and will fight any movement toward direct democracy and ballot initiatives because every effort to appeal to their base would be defeated.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Exactly, some people deserve to get exactly what they want, fuck em.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He pretended to want to help them during his campaign. They fell for it and just ignored all facts and evidence since. Doubt they're going to see the light.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, this is along the lines of what I was thinking.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

or give them hover bikes.