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Housing really is one of those aspects of the market that needs to be demonetized and handled by governments.
it is too late, it is already become rich people gold mine/golden egg that they wont let go no matter what because how stable the investment is, not to mention not taxable when empty
band together is just impossible now, they learn from french revolution so well. Make sure average joe will be out on the street if they cant receive their next wage, and what you can do against government who owns all the firearms, your whole data about you and your family so you can easily blackmailed while you marching with empty stomach without place to sleep ?
Unfortunately the government has all the tanks. And historically people will tolerate nearly anything short of death - often via food scarcity - before they actually put their own necks on the line.
This is the thing with Lemmy - there's all these veiled calls for violence which seem like an astroturfing campaign to foment social unrest from users on weird instances which should be banned.
You don't need tanks - we live in a democracy - you can band together and form a political party to replace the government, and convince people to vote for you. That's how it works.
That's not true anymore and it honestly hasn't been for the past few years, arguably a lot longer than that.
It's also a core aspect of American democracy that the American people have the collective right to overthrow their government should it become tyrannical and try again. That's actually why the second amendment is there, and covid more than anything showed us why it's so important.
It'd be nice if it wasn't necessary, but it's much more morally harmful to allow the country to go to hell in a handbasket because you value nonviolence over the welfare of your community than it is to use violence to either hit the reset button or try something new.
We actually face genocide now. π€¦
Lmao, this is a post about Canada. Your post is the clown meme of far right bullshit, ending in a claim about genocide.
You can use your "logic" to justify anything. It's totally garbage. "The world is ending therefore X is justified." Just grow up and deal with it or leave and go somewhere else.
If you don't have the political fortitude to be able to play ball in a democracy, then you won't have what it takes to govern a country if you succeed in overthrowing it by violence.
And I am talking about the U.S. You know, your downstairs neighbor who is going through literally the same problem as you are, along with a host of other political problems, who is about to ignite into a hot civil war that will send millions of refugees up your way, who will want housing that is not there, causing a homeless crisis in your country worse than the one you have now if you don't listen to me and fucking make your government do what it's supposed to be doing.
Maybe you guys could do it peacefully, I don't know. But I don't see you trying even that. Are you sitting around waiting for the breakdown of the U.S. before you think you have the moral authority to act? Or do you just not care?
Your 10 day old account is from a Finnish Lemmy instance and already has 454 comments. All you write about is this imaginary impending civil war - 100% troll account.
Tell us I struck a nerve without telling us I struck a nerve
And then what? They would protest?
I agree in principle, though I have a hard time seeing it going any other way than real estate developers getting even richer because now they just need to ~~bribe~~ lobby whatever politician is in charge of it for all the best deals
I mean nationalize the industry so no one makes money. Only government constructs housing. All real estate development firms are nationalized and taken over by government, all equipment seized, all construction workers now under employ of the government.
It might be the only real way to solve the problem.
Given a significant portion of politicians own investment and rental properties, I'd be nervous about how well they would actually handle owning all the housing supply. I think there are corruption issues and policies to protect the public needed before the government should own significant amounts of housing.
AKA we need a new government and to annihilate the ruling class
It will be impossible to have any functional system until the dysfunctional humans are removed from play.
We already got that. Municipal governments have control of the housing market. It's called "zoning" and their opinion on housing is "no."
Then buy a bunch of land and incorporate it as a separate county. Or the Canadian equivalent, I don't know what you guys call it
Would the government have the power to force people to move?
π€ I don't think it would have to come to that. They could very well leave anyone who's already there where they are, survey the neighborhood or otherwise figure out who's renting and who's not, turn over ownership to whoever's renting, and seize all empty housing to distribute to individuals or families looking for a primary residence. It actually would be possible to do it humanely.