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My guy, China is the least socialist place on earth. It is so capitalist and so unequal. You pay to use the roads, you pay to use the hospitals, you pay for any schooling past middle school, if you don't have a city residence permit your pension is 5% of those that do.
Have you ever been?
Capitalism is when you pay for things, and the more you pay for things, the more capitalister it is. When atoms exchange valence electrons, for example, that’s capitalism right there. Entrepreneurship has been woven into the fabric of reality since God, the great investor in the sky, created it.
What’s funny is that the US ruling class doesn’t pay for anything—they’re so rich and powerful specifically because they’re stealing from everyone else (including you)—yet nobody would argue that the US isn’t a capitalist hellhole in terminal decline.
I have to wonder—if China isn’t a socialist country, why is every student there compelled to study Marxism? Isn’t it extremely dangerous for a country masquerading as socialist to expose every single student under its sovereignty to Marxist texts?
If socialism isn't from each according to his means to each according to his needs then what the fuck is it?
The quote is “from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs,” Mr. Marxism expert.
Was capitalism built in a day? Do you think that Xi can just press the communism button and make everything instantly perfect everywhere? That’s not how it works. China is currently doing the USSR’s (and Stalin’s) NEP, but they’re doing it so much harder than Stalin ever did. They are literally hanging the capitalists with the rope the capitalists are selling them. Once the forces of production are built up to a point where everyone’s necessities are met—and once the USA is no longer in existence—it will become possible for the world to move forward into the next stage of history.
Also I like how you didn’t answer the question about Marxism being taught to Chinese students. Because there is no answer. Because you are wrong 😉
I was taught the tenets of Buddhism in my nationally-required Religious education lessons. Does that make me a Buddhist? Does that make my nation a Buddhist one?
There, your question is answered.
China has been peddling the same excuse about needing to get their economy up to a certain point before they can fully embrace communism since the Great Step Forward.
Meanwhile, there are 969 billionaires in China, it is the home of sweatshops and workers aren't legally allowed to strike.
Soshulizm
Maybe? Which country is this? You were also taught Buddhism because it is harmless to capitalism (with rare exceptions such as the monk who torched himself during the Vietnam War to protest American imperialism).
Tell me, if China embraced your version of communism (whatever the fuck it even is) right now, what would happen? Do you think that it might be better to wait until things are generally better (i.e. no USA waiting for any excuse to launch the nukes) before doing this?
Where would you rather be a billionaire? China, or the USA? Why does Elon Musk never criticize China, yet he constantly criticizes the American government?
UK.
Oh, it would be way worse, because communism is always way worse.
I think it would still be terrible even if there were no USA. If there were no USA, whatever brought them down would have collapsed the entire world's economy and there would be thousands of nukes lying around.
I'd rather be a billionaire in the US because my English is better than my Mandarin. Quality of life would be exactly the same at that income bracket wherever you live in the world. Labor protection would be weaker in China though, if I were looking to exploit my workers...
My man (sorry to misgender you but you have no pronouns displayed), the state religion in the UK is anticommunism, and you seem to have swallowed this religion wholeheartedly, even as the USA reduces your country to the state of a glorified colony / TERF-laden aircraft carrier. Enjoy experiencing the other side of imperialism I suppose. I hope this winter doesn’t get too cold?
Then I’m glad we’ve established that it’s better to be a billionaire outside of China, because China is a workers’ state that regularly executes billionaires. Losing ideological battles online is but a prelude to losing them in the real world 😉
Corrupt politicians purging enemies is not the win you think it is there, chief.
Which country are we talking about?
There's still a lot of people that came of age in the USSR. They're very interesting to talk to. Often, their experience doesn't match the American anticommunist rhetoric.