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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For all its faults the ability for an individual to declare bankruptcy sounds like a rather good thing in the US and something we don't have in Finland. Granted we don't have that level of healthcare bills either but if you somehow get youself millions into debt here it sticks with you your whole life.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There has to be some form of bankruptcy, isn't there?

When you declare bankruptcy, you're basically going to the courts and saying, "Look. I don't have the money or the income to cover all my debts. I need help." If the court agrees, they'll force all your creditors to come to the table to negotiate.

The court determines what assets you can keep and determines the best way to divvy up what's left. Usually you keep your house, car, and basic necessities but that can vary. Some states don't protect the house or car but even then the court will consider if it's cheaper or better for you to keep either of those than to go rent a new house and take alternate transportation.

Then they look at your income and decide what you can afford to pay over time. If your income is too low, they may consider all your debts settled at that point. Otherwise, they may set up a payment plan for so many years and consider you even after that.

Medical debt is the number one reason for bankruptcy. To twist the knife a bit, people who have large medical bills are often in a physical condition that makes it hard to work. About 2/3 of all bankruptcies, or 530,000 families annually, cite their medical bills when filing. After that is mortgage debt (45%), living beyond their means (44.5%), providing help to friends and family (28.5%), student loans (25.5%), and divorce (24.5%).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“ student loans (25.5%)”

This seems odd to me because bankruptcy doesn’t currently get rid of student loans (which is completely wtf, but that’s another issue); maybe the student loan payments got so onerous that they got into other debt?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Federal student loans have exceptions to bankruptcy. Private student loans are subject to normal bankruptcy proceedings--much though they may imply they are not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Ahhh, I wasn’t even thinking about private loans; yeah, that makes sense!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

You still have to pay for the bankruptcy. I don't know exactly how it works because I've never declared it, but it's not free to go bankrupt either. In American Capitalism they will screw the poor people every way they can.