this post was submitted on 20 Aug 2023
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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.
AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)
This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.
[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]
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Bias noted, impact not reduced. Basic rationality failed. These people are so willing to discard their own sense of right and wrong, moral or rational, just to belong in their weird cult. Why is it so hard for these dorks to admit that they don't actually care about being smart or rational and that they just want a bunch of other dorks to be friends with?
because that'd involve talking about feelings, and those are the domain of weird squishy gooey human things, disgusting! :sarcmark:
was so sensible until this twisty tail
(Not to be trivially reductionist, but...) Because admitting you want friends is unmasculine. IBTP
Do they just want some likemindedly dorky friends, or a sense of superiority over the normies/NPCs/whatever they call everyone else, complete with extensively footnoted justifications for why they are the cognitive aristocracy?
@AllNewTypeFace @swlabr Because they are in it for the status boost. (at least that is what they accuse sneerclubbers of wanting to do, so I just go of the accusations are projections bit). And being part of the rich tech influencers groups is quite a bit of status.
They also convince themselves they are actually right, and we just are factually wrong.
See this, esp the first comment. https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/xMkDui7oCFZPaWYPp/retracted-a-really-simplistic-experiment-for-lesswrong-and-r (but the rest of the thread is also quite something)
Ima sit here and imagine a world where SneerClub makes enough money to cover its own infrastructure, much less the literal fuckton of cash that gets thrown at EA and rationalist groups because there’s good money in carrying water for billionaires who need a smart-sounding excuse for doing a whole bunch of racism
get in the fucking locker
wow the angry downvotes, much coolness so rational
the downvotes and absolute lack of replies whenever SneerClubMod made a point they couldn’t pedantically dismiss are very noticeable
@self @gerikson Combined with fact that they started this post as an invitation for dialogue, an attempt to bridge the gaps, but it quickly turns into reasoning from first feelings, and dismissal of the actual experts.
* an invitation for monologue
@dgerard Yes, indeed, I unconsciously steelmanned it sorry.