this post was submitted on 19 Aug 2023
230 points (92.0% liked)

Asklemmy

43946 readers
674 users here now

A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions

Search asklemmy πŸ”

If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!

  1. Open-ended question
  2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
  3. Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
  4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
  5. An actual topic of discussion

Looking for support?

Looking for a community?

~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_[email protected]~

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's a huge difference between picking up a streetwalker, going to a legal brothel, or answering a personal ad in places like Canada where it's a grey area if it's legal

Like, off the street there's probably some coercion somewhere, legal brothel it's less likely they're forced to do it but it might still be trafficking but there's likely at least some form of oversight, and personal ads are a total crapshoot. It might be someone who's selective and just making some money, it might be someone that has to accept every offer.

When things arent 100% legal, some shady is statistically just going to happen. You can't regulate an illegal business.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Tbh I know little about the topic and was under the (maybe wrong) impression than many sex workers are poor people that need to do it to survive. But then I guess the issue I was pointing is more about our capitalist society than about sex work

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The thing is we can't know because it's illegal in most places.

There's some who only take clients they're attracted to anyways and manage to pull in a lot of money.

There's some that if they dont make X amount of money a night, they'll get beat.

Anyone that claims to know how much are in each group are pulling numbers out of their ass. And people that act like they're all the same are usually using the services of people who are forced into it.

Not all sex work is equal ethically.

But generally speaking, the less legal it is, the worse they're treated. Because they have no legal recourse if they're mistreated

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Also like, people work dangerous jobs where they DIE because they need to money to pay rent and buy food, so only caring about sex workers is kind of fucked up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sex work is the most dangerous job in the world. They have a higher number of victims of violence and PTSD than any other profession. For PTSD only war veterans have similar results.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pretty sure truck driver is the most dangerous job in the world.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Perhaps you shouldn't just guess but actually look it up.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Data is tough to come by. Truck driver is the most dangerous LEGAL job, 2-3 times as dangerous as the next most dangerous job. But getting data on illegal jobs is very difficult for obvious reasons.

In other words, I did look it up.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In Germany the majority (about 95 %) of sex workers are people from the poorest countries of EU. Because of the high demand and the amount of money you can make with brothels there is also an increase in trafficking from countries outside of the EU.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Regulated does not mean people weren’t pressured into it. Telling a young single mother from a poor country that most of her problems will vanish if she just works as a sex worker for a few years in Germany is legal and regulated. It’s not trafficking and not really coercion either. She will get a social security number, pay taxes, get health care, all that stuff she perhaps won’t get at home.

What do you think she will tell you if you ask her whether she is doing the job freely and if she wants to keep the job? Of course she will say yes.

But is it really just like any other job? The fact that sex workers in countries where it is regulated still suffer disproportionately from mental health problems, alcohol and drug abuse tells a different story.